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post #1 of 21 Old 04-12-2004, 06:03 PM Thread Starter
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getting 6'' or higher

Hi, I am new to four wheeling in my jeep and have found it to be pretty addicting. But anyways I am wanting to lift it at least 6'' or 6 1/2'' to run with 33'' tires.I was wondering if this is possible just with a 4.5'' lift combined with a 2'' body lift? or would you need the 4.5'' lift with a spring spacer lift. The last thing, is this all I will need or will i need longer brake lines or anything like that? Thanks.

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post #2 of 21 Old 04-12-2004, 06:20 PM
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Good luck on the body lift man(ZJ's and XJ's are both unibody platforms, so you can't body lift them as there is no fram to put lift blocks on. Why do you want that much lift for 33's? Why don't you just do the 4.5" and trim a little to keep you COG lower? I think you could do the 4.5" lift and be fine, then if you wanted 35's later on throw on some spring spacers.

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post #3 of 21 Old 04-12-2004, 06:26 PM
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get the 4.5" RE lift and then either do 2" spacers or no spacers. you should only have to trim your front bumper. it is a great lift and you should really like it,

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prev. jeeps: 98TJ on 33s, 00TJ on 35s, 01TJ on 35s, 78CJ on 31s, 85XJ stock, 94ZJ stock, 97 TJ on 35s, 03 on 35s, 93 GC on 33s
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post #4 of 21 Old 04-12-2004, 06:34 PM
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I'm running the 4.5 and 2bb right now with 33s. There are lots of issues to deal with at this height that most aren't or won't deal with. So, before you go there, make sure that you are ready to dive into the problems both timewise and monetarily.


You should also know that unibodies aren't like the framed vehicles. They have different issues with themselves.

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I want to go for a 4-4.5 inch lift for my GC but am frightened of going any further after reading this cautionary tale of woe.

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Well, that was one of the first Grand pages that started it all. I have run the 4.5 kit since March of 2000. I drove it from Norfolk Va to San Diego Ca and back again the summer of 01. Yes, there are some issues with lifted vehicles and modded vehicles that you should be aware of yet, there are too many jeepers out there that are having a blast wheeling and YOU should too.

The technology of the kits has really improved since Tony put his kit together on the Unlimted Grand. At that time only 3.5 kits were available. Now look at what Clayton has done with the technology of the longarm kits. Kevin Fell has a great kit, RKs brings up the group last.

I drive mine at 6.5 and 33s 30 minutes to work everyday. NO problems at all.

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I had wondered about that site, the first time I read it I decided that I would never lift my Jeep at all.

...but then i read lots of reviews about 4-6 inch lifts that drove virtually like a stock vehicle. Then i started to get confused.

If I were to go to 4.5 inches would i need to start upgrading axles, steering components etc? or could i leave it all stock?


Oh, and congratulations Hunter on reaching the 1000 post mark
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I drove mine with the stock dana30 and 35 for almost 4 years with open differentials and didn't break anything. I ran 32s for part of that and then 33s. Recently, I upgraded for traction in the truetrac up front and the Super 35 with Detroit locker for the rear.

The RE 4.5 kit includes everything that you'd need to go from stocker to rocker very quickly except for shocks. In 00, they came with shocks and I run the doestch tech 3000s. I did upgrade mine to all adjustable control arms front and back. I have recently hit the 10 year mark and upgraded my swaybars from stock to addcos. They made a huge difference.

If you have the front CV jointed driveshaft, you'd need to replace it at 2 or 3.5 or 4.5 or whatever increase in lift. A friend named Bruce on www.nagca.com broke two cv jointed stock front driveshafts last year in under 24 hours at Grand Slam East on beginner trails.

You can find a better/ stronger CV jointed shaft or a different ujointed shaft from Tom Woods custom driveshafts.

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Here is a link to some pics and mods of mine through the years.


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Think Long Arms and think final build requirement....trust me you don't want to do anything twice....

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It really all depends on what your budget is. If you have the money to go all the way, great. Yet, once you get long arms, you can't go back.


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hunter, I just realized how incredibly cool your jeep is nice job yours has become a model for what i want to do to mine

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if you got the money get the RE 4.5" kit, then run 33s with it. i have the kit plus 2" spacers. also get all adjustable CAs. you might as well order a ADJ TB for the rear. the brackets suck

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prev. jeeps: 98TJ on 33s, 00TJ on 35s, 01TJ on 35s, 78CJ on 31s, 85XJ stock, 94ZJ stock, 97 TJ on 35s, 03 on 35s, 93 GC on 33s
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ok...you really don't need that much lift unless your going for looks over stability. if you can extend your arms enough(probably not with short arms, you can run 35"s with only 4.5" with not too much trimming at all. just a thought. thats what I have(just with LAs)

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Lots of guys have problems with the front lower control arms with the angle being too steep causing too much energy being transmitted to the people inside or stated plainly, it rides too damn rough.

So, if you get the XJ control arm relocation brackets the lower control arms will have a less agressive angle and less trasference of energy or it rides smoother. You'll lose some ground clearance but, the bracket is supposedly close enough to the wheel to have that issue taken care of by the tire.

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rambling as usual...I've been in contracting class all day.

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