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Unread 08-11-2011, 02:56 AM   #1
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Front end solution

Got major 9-3 o'clock play in front tires with jeep elevated. Going to replace all my tie rod ends, track bar, and throw a new set of shocks all around. This endeavor is a result of "DEATH WOBBLE". I'm going to give this an attempt before moving on to my centerlink and pittman arm. I've considered that my control arm bushings might need replaced. This is the preliminary to going full lift. I know I'm not the first one to have this problem. I've read the threads and think this might be my solution to my problem. Lay it on me! Thanks, Mark.

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Unread 08-11-2011, 04:39 AM   #2
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I would check the steering box adjustment too, also get under there with a bar and try to move everything, then with the tires on the ground have someone turn the steering wheel back and forth while you look for things.
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Unread 08-11-2011, 12:10 PM   #3
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death wobble check your basics first like balance tires and good stabilizer links
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Unread 08-11-2011, 12:17 PM   #4
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First and foremost do tire balance and check the trackbar, both ends. These two account for like 90% of DW cases. Does it only happen when you hit bumps, or when you get up to speed?
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Unread 08-12-2011, 04:36 AM   #5
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First and foremost do tire balance and check the trackbar, both ends. These two account for like 90% of DW cases. Does it only happen when you hit bumps, or when you get up to speed?
Yep, at speed and the bump in the road sets it off. I'm pretty confident tie rod replacement and a new track bar will solve the problem. Tie rods look pretty beat. Going to get under it this weekend and check everything out. I've got 2 other vehicles so I'm not in a bind for transportation to work. I'm still driving it but I'm not using it on the highway. I use it around town and take it to work but I take the back roads so its a nice cruise pace right beside the Delaware River pretty much all the way to work. I just got home from work. 4 am. Overtime!!!!!!!!! Parked my car, jumping in my jeep and heading to Walmart. Probably going to be a 'couple of weeks before I get to it. Works going back to 7 days a week so no time. I'll get parts ordered over the weekend and definately will let you know if it was the track bar. I know you want know. I'll see if I can get this one done a little faster than my brake job. Time for my therapy drive. Mark
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Unread 08-12-2011, 05:11 AM   #6
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death wobble check your basics first like balance tires and good stabilizer links
There aren't the basics of death wobble.

Hear you on those 7 days a week...been doing that for the last year.
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Unread 08-12-2011, 05:50 AM   #7
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All work and no play makes you old too soon gentlemen. Take it from an old fart, keep some time for yourselves.
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Unread 08-12-2011, 06:26 AM   #8
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All work and no play makes you old too soon gentlemen. Take it from an old fart, keep some time for yourselves.
i'm there 8 days a week. working on the other hand, comes in spurts. the benefit of being a skilled trade.
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Unread 08-12-2011, 12:32 PM   #9
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I'm kinda like that, been on call 24/7 for 20 years seems like.
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Unread 08-12-2011, 02:26 PM   #10
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yep improper tire balance gave it to me check that first.
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Unread 08-14-2011, 05:14 AM   #11
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I'm not out of this thread yet. Just got home from work about an hour ago. Its 6am and pouring rain but I'm going to get to the bottom of this. Taking a friend and heading to the car wash around 10am to get out of the rain and do some research. Doing some wheel turning, laying the creeper down and going to find out what's up. I appreciate all of your advice. Will keep you all posted. Mark
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