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Unread 07-02-2009, 04:18 AM   #1
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fram oil filter vs mopar oil filter

ive seen lots of guys in here bash fram oil filters. is there a difference between the fram and mopar oil filter?

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Unread 07-02-2009, 05:34 AM   #2
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I can't really comment on the mopar filter, but I have used Fram's in all of my vehicle at some point in time or another. I did have a problem with one, when a pin hole developed in a filter on my grand am. I use purolator the majority of the time now, because that is what Advance Auto always has going with their oil/filter deal.
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Unread 07-02-2009, 06:44 AM   #3
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From what I have read, the filter element in the Fram filters is too thick, and doesn't allow oil to pass through the filter element, and everything just goes through the by-pass valve. My ZJ was ticking like crazy the other week (lifters), I popped the hood, spun the Fram filter off, installed a Napa Gold (made my wix I believe), and the lifter tick went away. Some of the 4G63 guys (Turbo AWD Mitsubishi) have actually had the Fram filters come apart and destroy their engines. Not to mention Fram also uses cardboard as a part in the filter, which I think is the by-pass valve, but not 100% sure.
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Unread 07-02-2009, 07:00 AM   #4
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If you really want details, Google will answer the question. If you prefer just to chose correctly... Wix usually is the supplier for NAPA Gold, and is a reasonable low cost choice. I personally prefer K&N or Mobil One filters. Synthetic media, silicone valves, and good case construction are good features. Mopar changes suppliers too often to be a reliable choice, but tend to be better than some cheap Autopart brands.

I don't use Fram; one unscrewed from the base, costing me a motor once.
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Unread 07-02-2009, 07:48 AM   #5
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I use Wix (aka NAPA Gold), AMSOIL and Donaldson filters. Fram is not on my recommended list.
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I was at Walmart the other day getting some Mobil 1 synthetic oil, although I usually have to go to AutoZone for a Mobil 1 filter. When checking out Walmartís filters, which were mostly Fram, I also found a few Mopar filters. After opening up the boxes in order to compare the Fram and Mopar for my WJ, the visual appearances of the internals made it obvious to me that the Mopar was a much higher quality. Although I donít know exactly what I was seeing, it seemed that the Fram had very little internal structure compared to the Mopar. There was simply more to the insides of the Mopar, and it reminded me of a Mobil 1. I bought the Mopar filter and didnít worry about going out of my way to get a Mobil 1.

If possible, try to may the comparison that I did, and you will probably may the same decision that I did.
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Unread 07-02-2009, 08:04 AM   #7
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I was at walmart also and bought the Mopar filter, time will tell. I've never used them before.
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wix/napa gold

i try to do as little shopping as possible at chinamart and vatozone.
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Unread 07-02-2009, 11:47 AM   #9
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The WIX/Napa Gold filters are an excellent, reasonably priced choice. Mobil 1 or Amsoil filters are the best way to go. K&N is good as well, but the leaf spring instead of coil is a potential drawback. That said, I just changed my oil about 20 minutes ago with a K&N filter, so we'll see how that goes.

What I'd like to know is how the Purolator PureOne filters are.
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All I use is Mopar filters. I like em. No complaints here.
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The WIX/Napa Gold filters are an excellent, reasonably priced choice. Mobil 1 or Amsoil filters are the best way to go. K&N is good as well, but the leaf spring instead of coil is a potential drawback. That said, I just changed my oil about 20 minutes ago with a K&N filter, so we'll see how that goes.

What I'd like to know is how the Purolator PureOne filters are.
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I like'd the K&N one But amsoil seem to have the most filter media in it.

My g/f's Neon can use all the filters that my jeep use's? that's funny. now her car holds like 1/2 qt more cause the filter lol. normal neon filters were like size of thoose tiny popcans that came in a 6 pack.

Cough Fram Blows Monkey nuts dont ever use them on a vehicle again.
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Unread 07-02-2009, 12:44 PM   #12
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Mopar is what's used a the dealership. If that's what they use to try to avoid warranty issues, it's good enough for me.

Just for ****s and giggles I asked a buddy of mine with an old Fram to let me have it at his oil change. I cut both apart (Fram and Mopar) and the mopar had more of a metallic structure, whereas the Fram was just flimsy filter material.
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read through these findings and examine the pics and afterwards you'll never buy another FRAM product again

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil...reference.html
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil.../opinions.html
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Unread 07-02-2009, 01:34 PM   #14
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I use the Mobile 1 filter with their Mobile 1 High Mileage 10w30 and haven't had any problems. I think I might go for the Purolator next time though. It looks pretty good.
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Unread 07-02-2009, 02:53 PM   #15
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I just noticed the weight between the Mopar and fram, it's alot. So I thought that alone tells me they use more of something. Not to mention the dealer would recommend it.
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