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Unread 03-04-2014, 10:02 AM   #1
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drive shaft help.

So this summer I plan on making some major changes to my jeep new gears rebuilding the axles and adding a locker but i want to add a 2 inch budget lift on top of my 4 inch rough country lift it has sagged over time. Now my current drive shaft is close to falling out of the transfer case so I'll need a longer drive shaft. No transfer cases drops or sye's can I use a drive shaft from a Comanche or make a driveshaft from a stock truck and just change the slip yoke part on it? My zj is the 4.0 ax15 with the 231 so I'm pretty sure my driveshaft is already longer then an auto zj I'm also running the rough country long arm in the rear and adjustable short lowers up front and stock uppers. Any help would be greatly appreciated please any ignorance will not be tolerated I just want some help not stupid answers. Thanks

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Unread 03-04-2014, 10:11 AM   #2
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I have never needed a longer drive shaft front or rear even at around 5" of lift on a 95 5.2. Are you sure you need a longer drive shaft?
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Unread 03-04-2014, 10:15 AM   #3
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granted i have a 93 v8 (longest zj/xj front driveshaft)
I got a rugged ridge SYE that has the bigger mainshaft with a higher spline on the output so i could swap in a 1350 yoke down the road if i went tons(kit comes with 1310 yoke) I actually use the same double cardan driveshaft front and rear and i pushed rear axle back 2-3". my guess is you could do the same using a 93-95 v8 front shaft with a sye. to measure just jack the frame up until you get you 6" total lift and measure. i want to say the 93-95 v8 shaft is 32-33" collapsed from ujoint center to ujoint center
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V8 zj at 6" . Double tri rear and true 3 link front. Stretched to 108"
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Unread 03-04-2014, 10:16 AM   #4
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I have never needed a longer drive shaft front or rear even at around 5" of lift on a 95 5.2. Are you sure you need a longer drive shaft?
at 5" i could wobble my rear slip yoke easily at ride height, maybe it the splines were worn but i wasn't fond of the notion
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V8 zj at 6" . Double tri rear and true 3 link front. Stretched to 108"
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Unread 03-04-2014, 10:27 AM   #5
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The slip yoke is only in the case I think about an inch and a half maybe 2 I adjusted my rear arms per instructions so idk whata up but I will need a new shaft I think if I go 2 more inches a total of 6 then I'll have to look or just try it if I have to which I would really hate to do I'll put a 1 inch case drop but that's a last resort
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Unread 03-04-2014, 12:08 PM   #6
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I haven't been a ZJ owner long, and I did an SYE with a 4.5 lift so..

I'd imagine with 6" of lift and an OEM rear driveshaft with Longarm's your operating angle on the ujoints is gonna be maxed out and binding. Potentially damaging the transfercase. Just my .02..
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Unread 03-04-2014, 01:16 PM   #7
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Nah drive line angle is perfect no binding here I have the axle adjusted so the angle is fine I've had the jeep 5 years and not once put u joints in it I'm gonna try a Comanche drive shaft it not I'll pay to have one extended I don't want a slip yoke eliminator.
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Unread 03-04-2014, 02:03 PM   #8
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Nah drive line angle is perfect no binding here I have the axle adjusted so the angle is fine I've had the jeep 5 years and not once put u joints in it I'm gonna try a Comanche drive shaft it not I'll pay to have one extended I don't want a slip yoke eliminator.
you could always have a driveline shop extend yours. I went with the sye because:
1. i needed the clearance over the rear crossmember for the double triangulated
2. it allows me to eventually run 1350 driveshaft
3. roll the pinion up on the 8.8 for driveshaft protection and a rock will hit the housing before the pinion flange
4. carry one spare driveshaft that will cover front and back

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Unread 03-04-2014, 03:18 PM   #9
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I like the idea on having 1 shaft for front and rear but don't wanna spend that kinda money I'm going to look into getting one lengthened or adding the cardon joint to my stock shaft I think if I just add the joint to my stock shaft it may add the few inches I need or maybe a Comanche shaft I gotta do some measurements and see what I come up with that's a sick setup ya got there by the way in was also looking into a hack and tap if they work I don't want to put much more money into the jeep it already has way more then its worth into it
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Unread 03-10-2014, 09:49 AM   #10
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So I found a 242 transfer case in the junkyard its in an older Cherokee with the older style speedo gear but it has a real slip yoke eliminator installed on it. The rear drive start is bent tho the jeep was hit hard in the front I think it was a 92 Cherokee bug my question is will the sye fit my 231? Or should I just spend 50 bucks and buy the whole transfer case and swap it in. But will it work on my ax15 being off an automatic aw4
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Unread 03-10-2014, 12:12 PM   #11
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Wow! I get a headache trying to read your posts. This should help you out.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...nput_gears.htm
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Unread 03-10-2014, 02:36 PM   #12
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Thanks for the link. And there called words ya form then using things called letters lol. sorry I'm to lazy for punctuation normally my phone adds them for me sometimes it don't.
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Unread 03-11-2014, 01:57 AM   #13
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It must be a hack n tap sye. In my opinion going from a 231 to a 242 is a downgrade.
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Unread 03-11-2014, 06:32 AM   #14
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That's how I felt the case I found is a rea sye I can tell Cuz the whole rear of the case looks brand new like where the speed sensor goes for 50 bucks tho I may buy it just to flip to make some cash to fund my project lol but id rather my 231 anyway its a stronger and better case in my opinion who needs full time 4wd I have driven my jeep in part time on the street for a full day with no issues so I don't see the point but the 242 would be good if someone has a 249 and was a good upgrade and an sye idk how much I could get for it but I'm sure I can make a profit the jeep that its in has lift springs and aftermarket control arms I may go take all that to for my wife's Cherokee lol
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Unread 03-12-2014, 05:50 PM   #15
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So I found a 242 transfer case in the junkyard its in an older Cherokee with the older style speedo gear but it has a real slip yoke eliminator installed on it. The rear drive start is bent tho the jeep was hit hard in the front I think it was a 92 Cherokee bug my question is will the sye fit my 231? Or should I just spend 50 bucks and buy the whole transfer case and swap it in. But will it work on my ax15 being off an automatic aw4
Chances are, that 242 has a hack & tap SYE as, from my understanding, a true SYE is not possible on a 242. So, it will likely not fit the 231.
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