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Unread 01-16-2010, 09:56 AM   #1
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Dodge header question (dont worry its not what you think)

I know people say dodge 5.2 headers wont work, because of the obvious lack of space. But has anyone here tried it? I know of the minor "tweeking" you can do to them to make it work. But has anyone bought a set tried it and proved it wouldnt work?

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If you can weld and aren't afraid to take a chance, I'd say try it - someone's gotta do it.
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Unread 01-16-2010, 12:35 PM   #2
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Never tried it, don't even have a 5.2, but I imagine that there's some way that it can be done.

My other car is a Thunderbird SC, the aftermarket is limited, and I've heard ALOT of stories about people taking V6 Mustang headers, cutting/moving the tubes slightly, and making them fit on the 'bird.

If you can weld and aren't afraid to take a chance, I'd say try it - someone's gotta do it.
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Unread 01-16-2010, 12:53 PM   #3
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thas what Im going to do I think. I think ill buy them. I dont want go go to bending on them but I an imagine if you can cut the tubes down at the flange they will fit. Ill be the first this weekend and there will be pics. Keep posted
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Unread 01-16-2010, 01:01 PM   #4
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i have the proper edelbrocks, and i had the dodge ones side by side, and there is absolutely no way they would fit, my headers were a tight fit, actually a little hard to them in place. so you could try, but i think its a waste of money, but if you do do it, post some pics i am interested
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Unread 01-16-2010, 01:04 PM   #5
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From what I understand, the headers would facilitate you moving the starter to the other side and the "y" pipe collector would be an issue due to the complete lack of room for anything under the ZJs.

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Unread 01-16-2010, 01:05 PM   #6
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Yeah im not going to spend the money on the ceramic coated ones. Since Ill probably have to cut them any ways. Ill have them coated afterwards. But If they stick out to far. I can cut the tubes at the flange, at an angle and that will poke them inwards some. I think it will work out and for those who can weld this might be a way to save 400 dollars. The only thing I have to see is the exhaust pipe with the starter. It just might take the mechanic,being crafty when he fabs up a y pipe
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If you can weld and aren't afraid to take a chance, I'd say try it - someone's gotta do it.
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Like Hunter said, the dodge headers will hit the starter.
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Unread 01-16-2010, 01:06 PM   #8
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ill try to install the passenger first and if looks like its going to hit ill get my money back. As long as I dont knick them up too much
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Unread 01-16-2010, 01:07 PM   #9
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i know both of yall are experience and loyal to the forum. But has anyone dont it where it shows it being in the way. I have searched and havent found one person actually tring it. It seems as if they assume
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i have made custom headers a couple times before, but it was not something that was worth doing, plus a good set of headers for a dodge isnt that much less than the edelbrocks, plus the edelbrocks have a nice y-pipe
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ill try to install the passenger first and if looks like its going to hit ill get my money back. As long as I dont knick them up too much
believe it or not, the passengers side is easy, they just fall in, its the drivers side that is hard to get them in, it hits the oil pan on the bottom, and the steering box.
but before i did them, i did think the passengers side would be harder to do because of the motor being closer to the frame rail.
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well I was going to do the passengers side bc they are suppose to hit the starter. So if I can clear the start then I can deal with everything else. I would much rather spends some fab time and save a couple of hundred dollars. Because you can a set of headers for about 150 from summit for a dodge
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If you can weld and aren't afraid to take a chance, I'd say try it - someone's gotta do it.
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well I was going to do the passengers side bc they are suppose to hit the starter. So if I can clear the start then I can deal with everything else. I would much rather spends some fab time and save a couple of hundred dollars. Because you can a set of headers for about 150 from summit for a dodge
Remember that any $150 dollar headers are going to be complete *****. You'll have hell of a time replacing header gaskets every oil change because the thin flanges warp like crazy (just ask me how I know.)
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Unread 01-16-2010, 01:35 PM   #14
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Well arent they just pacesetters?
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Well arent they just pacesetters?
i had pacesetters on an 8.1 chev, and even double gasketed they leaked so bad, i just put the cast iron manifolds back on. the flanges on my edelbrocks are a good 1/4 ish inch thick, and ive no problems with warpage, or the bolts loosening.

have you looked into kooks headers? never been to one of there shops, but i hear they do really good work, and they are allot less than edelbrocks, they start with a flange for your engine, and do fully custom headers, some one i know got long tube headers on his zee jay from them, they look pretty well done.
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