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Unread 04-27-2013, 10:06 AM   #1
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Death Wobble after lift, alignment, and balanced tires

So last night I finished my lift kit around midnight drove it around town and on highway, without any problems and without death wobble, today I went and got my tires balanced, rotated, and had them do the alignment.

I hit a bump around 40-45 mph and boom what do you know... I have death wobble.

I installed 3.5" foundation kit, with new front and rear adjustable track bars... new coils and shocks all around, also IRO steering stabilizer...

I'm going back to the shop tomorrow to put it on a lift and see whats up...

Any ideas what it probably is?

I tightened the hell out of every bolt and nut when we did the lift. Here is a picture of the alignment before and after:

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Unread 04-27-2013, 10:09 AM   #2
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Are your track bar holes wallowed out at all?
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Unread 04-27-2013, 10:12 AM   #3
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Take the SS off., solve the DW and then put it back on.

Something hasn't been torqued down correctly. Check the axle and frame side of the trackbar. Did you loosen all the control arms and then re-torque them at the new ride height?
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Are your track bar holes wallowed out at all?
No they aren't wallowed out, but I think it's the front adjustable track bar, the gold nut on the track bar isn't really tight, there is a tiny bit of play, I'm thinking between that and where it connects on the driver side is the problem. Might have gotten loose from settling, and just needs re-tightened HOPEFULLY

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Take the SS off., solve the DW and then put it back on.

Something hasn't been torqued down correctly. Check the axle and frame side of the trackbar. Did you loosen all the control arms and then re-torque them at the new ride height?
yeah we disconnected the control arms and then re-tightened when we did the lift
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Unread 04-27-2013, 11:28 AM   #5
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Looked up under the jeep, and the front track bar by the driver side, didn't have a pin in the nut to keep the bolt down, and I remembered I forgot to torque that nut, so it came a little bit loose after driving 50 miles or so, so I tightened it back up with a hand wrench to get me by until I can go get the torque wrench.
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Unread 04-27-2013, 12:00 PM   #6
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That's your issue. Grab a new butterfly pin and poo it in the castle nut and you'll be good.
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Unread 04-27-2013, 12:24 PM   #7
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That's your issue. Grab a new butterfly pin and poo it in the castle nut and you'll be good.
Yeah i should be good till I get home and then tonight or tomorrow I'll torque it and put the pin in.

oh and the lift is official now I got a IRO sticker on the window haha
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So fixed the track bar, and I am still having issues, I found a guy that comes into my gym that has a 4x4 shop, and I showed him my alignment specs and he thinks/knows it has to do with the rear axle being way off. the left toe is -.09 and the right is +.16...

So dropping it off at the shop for him to do the alignment...

I feel like the kids at Kwik Kar didn't do a damn thing besides take my $50
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you aren't getting control arms adjusted for 50$. for an alignment like that you're paying shop time, and i wouldn't be surprised if it took at least 2hrs to do.
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you aren't getting control arms adjusted for 50$. for an alignment like that you're paying shop time, and i wouldn't be surprised if it took at least 2hrs to do.

Oh yeah the first time was $49.95 and they told me that was the best they (kwik kar) could do.

The shop I'm going to Thursday, I'm getting hooked up on cost, but said it was about a 2 hour job
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So fixed the track bar, and I am still having issues, I found a guy that comes into my gym that has a 4x4 shop, and I showed him my alignment specs and he thinks/knows it has to do with the rear axle being way off. the left toe is -.09 and the right is +.16...

So dropping it off at the shop for him to do the alignment...

I feel like the kids at Kwik Kar didn't do a damn thing besides take my $50
Do they do 4wd's there? A shop has to have the proper equipment to do lifted 4wd's. ..At least from what I was told. Midas and basic shops like that cant do it. (around here at least) My alignment was way more than 50$ to do all my adjustables
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You don't need anything fancy to do a lifted Jeep. If the shop can do a truck, it can do a Jeep.
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Maybe kwik kar can't do trucks either haha idk
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Do they do 4wd's there? A shop has to have the proper equipment to do lifted 4wd's. ..At least from what I was told. Midas and basic shops like that cant do it. (around here at least) My alignment was way more than 50$ to do all my adjustables
They said they could do it, but when all said and done they said they couldn't touch the caster, and couldn't do much on the rear.

I guess I'll see what my buddy at Precision Auto Alignment can do, he says they do lifted jeeps all the time, and deal with death wobble a lot. So fingers crossed.
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I'm kinda having the same problem at the moment , Id like to see the outcome of this
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