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Unread 04-09-2013, 09:49 AM   #1
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currie JJ in an IRO track bar

last time i asked a question like this i just did it anyways. but i'll ask.

i'm not happy with my IRO double sheer track bar. i've cranked that bolt down and i can still feel movement in it. so i want to put a currie JJ on there.
anyone done it?


what i want to know is if the currie joint will thread into the IRO track bar, and if it will fit the IRO trackbar.

no, i haven't measured anything yet; the ZJ is sitting outside waiting for the new YJ to move its broken a$$ out of the garage so the ZJ can get some love.
this would be on the list of upgrades.

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Unread 04-09-2013, 11:04 AM   #2
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I had a JKS track bar that has the JJ, and it was way wider than the IRO mount.

If you have your heart set on a JJ, I am sure Andy at Ironman4x4fab.com can build you a custom bracket that is compatible. Here is the link to the new bracket he came out with:
http://ironman4x4fab.com/Products/TB.html

If I were to get a custom TB bracket to fit a joint, it would be a Duroflex joint personally. Check out this thread for the Duroflex joints v. JJs:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/jo...joint-1356422/
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No. I am pissed and have the same problem. The Iron rock threading is the same as the stock zj tie rod ends......so no heims or other joints will thread in to it. I'll probably cut, sleeve and weld a bung for a 7/8 or 3/4 heim
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Unread 04-09-2013, 04:07 PM   #4
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I did however find this......
http://www.mcgillmotorsports.co.uk/i...productId=1003

It looks as though it should take the abuse but we would have to modify the bracket or something. I'm not sure we could find the proper misalignments for the iro farms bracket width....
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Unread 04-10-2013, 10:10 AM   #5
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No. I am pissed and have the same problem. The Iron rock threading is the same as the stock zj tie rod ends......so no heims or other joints will thread in to it. I'll probably cut, sleeve and weld a bung for a 7/8 or 3/4 heim
sigh


i'm getting sick of cutting up IRO stuff to add Currie stuff........... lol.

my hybrid Claytons Ironrock lift is getting huge. lol
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Seriously call Andy, he'll have a solution for you.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 11:28 AM   #7
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ok, so i have figured out how i am proceeding with this.....

the IRO track bar is 1.25" OD solid tube
I am going to cut the threaded portion off of the track bar
get 1' of either 1.75"x.250 wall DOM ($12.60) or 1' of 1.5"x.120 wall DOM ($6.50)

The ID of both of those is 1.25" so it will sleeve over the IRO bar
Weld the exposed sleeve in all the way around to the IRO bar and maybe some drill the outer sleeve for a few small plug welds

Then get The 7/8" tube bung for 1.25" ID and weld that to the DOM sleeve($10)
Then get a 7/8" by 7/8" Heim, misalignments, and jam nut to finish it

I priced all of this using the .250 wall DOM from Ruffstuff and all in before shipping it is 49$ which isn't much more than the cost of a johnny joint alone (Heim,misalignment,jamnut,weld in bung,and DOM sleeve)
a 7/8" heim should be plenty sufficient for the track bar, particularily the RUFFSTUFF heims which are know as some of the best (if not the best) out there
Hope THis helps, I have less than 5k miles on my IRO bar and there is 3/8" of play in the frame bushing and it is not visibly damaged. This is not acceptable in my opinion for a track bar and leads to sloppy handling for sure
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Have you talked to the IRO guys? They've always been great help and stand behind their stuff. Maybe they could help or give some money back???
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speed bucket that sounds like a good plan. i like it.

mine is brand new and has had play since i installed it.
its not much, but its enough to cause a clunk.
i haven't called IRO. they'd proably just send me a new bushing which is fine but if thats the issue then boo.

let me/us know how this works for you!
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Have you talked to the IRO guys? They've always been great help and stand behind their stuff. Maybe they could help or give some money back???
no, i haven't, They do have good customer service and would probably send me new bushings, but Im not gonna make them do that for something that will be put on a shelf in my garage. i can fix it my way and know its stronger, will last longer, and articulate much better with my three link. As i have come to find out and im sure johhnyzj has as well, you reach a certain point where you stop buying parts and start making them.

I like their products but nothing but the standard jeep tierod will thread into that trackbar, It makes plenty of business sense though. They can sell the bottom end by itself then make more money when folks do the double sheer upgrade (35$ more than if you bought it all originally) and make profit on both ends, Where if the lower half was a common thread then you could just go buy a Heim or johnny to bolt in and they would loose their best seller with the double sheer.....
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I guess I'm not far enough along in my mechanic abilities and knowledge to follow along. I thought their DBL Sheer set up was a complete system from end to end? Bigger and better than the rest. You're saying it's stock size? Just a different connection style at the upper end?
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I guess I'm not far enough along in my mechanic abilities and knowledge to follow along. I thought their DBL Sheer set up was a complete system from end to end? Bigger and better than the rest. You're saying it's stock size? Just a different connection style at the upper end?
No, it is larger than stock.
But they sell the track bar with a factory rod end at the frame (no stronger than weakest link)
And they sell it with the new frame Bracket to go double sheer. The bar is the same bar, they just weld the frame side bushing shell to a rod that matches the factory rod end threads. That way they can use the same bar for double or single shear.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 12:45 PM   #13
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I see, so tapping it to a larger end wouldn't work because there's not enough material there and the walls would be too thin.

Makes perfect sense. Soooooo I'm thinking you guys would have went with Currie stuff from the beginning if you knew this? Or is there not a complete Currie trackbar set up?
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the JKS track bar had a JJ, but its single sheer and uses the stock TB bracket.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 03:37 PM   #15
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IRO is easy and cheaper.

its always easy to say shoulda gone claytons. but from what i see the only benefit is the Johnny Joints...... and for twice the price, not sure if that is worth it, when i can put JJs on anything anyways
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