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Unread 05-03-2009, 09:27 PM   #31
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turned off the alarm, and it started right up no prob.
nash will be sending me a pcm here soon, an im thinking about picking up a crank sensor at advanced autos (theyr like $50). plus i know a manager there, he also drives a black 96 limited 5.2
so maybe ill be able to but it and if thats not the problem he could prolly let me return it for a full refund.
im starting to think its the CPS more than anything now.

i didnt get a chance to drive it tonight tho..

If you turned off the alarm and you no longer have any of the problems I would leave it at that, how did you turn of the alarm? If you grounded out the purple/yellow wire leave it that way, car alarms don't do anything other then annoy people.

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Unread 05-03-2009, 09:40 PM   #32
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it won't be long till I give you mine....geez...you ain't my son and I sure am going broke due to you...I hope College pays off...n/m you went to Ohio State and not THE U of TEXAS.
seriously the ecu will get sent out this week (probably tomorrow) so hopefully that works for you. The only problem I have is when I get my stroker motor in...I will have to have my ecu reflashed all over again.
going broke?! psh it probably costs <$10 to ship that. and i was planning on paying for the shipping whenever you let me know how much it was.

hopefully it wont be my ecu thats messed up, and just the CPS. if thats the case ill send it back to ya.

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If you turned off the alarm and you no longer have any of the problems I would leave it at that, how did you turn of the alarm? If you grounded out the purple/yellow wire leave it that way, car alarms don't do anything other then annoy people.
stuck the key in the drivers door and turned it
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Unread 05-04-2009, 10:29 PM   #33
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ok so where the hell is the CPS on the 5.2?
everything says "The sensor is located on the top of cylinder block
near the rear of right cylinder head".....how vague...
iv put my hands back there and cant find anything. only thing iv found is a sensor or something right directly behind the intake manifold and distributor... is that it?
does anybody have an actual picture rather than a diagram?
or have a pic that shows the general area?
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Unread 05-04-2009, 10:47 PM   #34
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Are we looking for the Crankshaft Position sensor or Camshaft Position sensor? They both work together to determine timing. Crankshaft Position sensor is under a whole bunch of crap. To get to it you have to remove the spark plug wires, then the right exhaust manifold heat shield, then remove the EGR valve and tube, remove the oil pressure sending unit if you have trouble accessing the tube nut, then remove the sensor. Pain in the Arse.

Camshaft position sensor is a little bit different. It is located within the distributor on 95-98 models (all engines). You'll have to remove the air intake duct on your V8 to access it. Remove the distributor cap and rotor from the distributor, and then disconnect the camshaft position sensor and replace it. remember to align the tab on the new position sensor with the notch on the distributor housing.
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Unread 05-04-2009, 10:59 PM   #35
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im looking for the crank.
i knew the cam was in the dist.

you really have to remove all that crap?
and what side is right? i keep reading that in the manuals and crap
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Unread 05-04-2009, 11:09 PM   #36
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on yours since you don't have an egr tube I imagine should be much easier it's still a pain in the you know what but better than having that egr tube! Start off putting your hand down the left valve cover if you are looking at it from the front, it's on the side that the battery is at. Next locate your exhaust manifold and if you can squeeze your hand through there you should be able to feel the sensor. You can locate the bolts with your fingers and then use some extensions maybe 3 to remove the bolts. Have Fun I will be attempting the same if the PCM doesn't fix the same issues you are having
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Unread 05-04-2009, 11:15 PM   #37
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lol, I'm just reading the Haynes manual I have.

I always assumed right was drivers side when talking about working under the hood. when talking about the vehicle in general, right is passenger side.
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Unread 05-04-2009, 11:25 PM   #38
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on yours since you don't have an egr tube I imagine should be much easier it's still a pain in the you know what but better than having that egr tube! Start off putting your hand down the left valve cover if you are looking at it from the front, it's on the side that the battery is at. Next locate your exhaust manifold and if you can squeeze your hand through there you should be able to feel the sensor. You can locate the bolts with your fingers and then use some extensions maybe 3 to remove the bolts. Have Fun I will be attempting the same if the PCM doesn't fix the same issues you are having
oh jeez. so do you have to remove it from underneath?
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Unread 05-04-2009, 11:34 PM   #39
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no you cant do it from underneath as there is no way to remove the bolts. Just remove the spark plug wires and stick your hand down and you will feel it. If you can't then go to the other side and look down from the distributor and you should see the connector for the crankshaft and then you can follow it to the sensor
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Unread 05-04-2009, 11:47 PM   #40
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alright thanks man
ill check it out on saturday and see if thats the problem
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Unread 05-05-2009, 09:43 PM   #41
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hey John...I sent it today...they say it will be there on Thurs or Fri.
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Unread 05-05-2009, 10:51 PM   #42
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hey John...I sent it today...they say it will be there on Thurs or Fri.
thanks alot man
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Unread 05-06-2009, 05:19 PM   #43
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Just to update you I received the mopar pcm today and installed it at first it was throwing a bunch of white smoke then I went out to warm it up and man does it feel different! i can really feel the power. Anyways I let it warm up and it stalled while it was idling so now im off to replace the camshaft sensor since it's easier and then if that doesn't work i'll move on to the crankshaft sensor.
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Unread 05-06-2009, 05:30 PM   #44
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the smoke was the new(er) computer "learning" your Jeep & adjusting. Mine did that for about 5 minutes when I replaced it. Good luck w/ the sensors.
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the smoke was the new(er) computer "learning" your Jeep & adjusting. Mine did that for about 5 minutes when I replaced it. Good luck w/ the sensors.
yea that's what I figured because it went away after I drove it for a while. Im thinking about replacing the stock coil with an accel one maybe it can't keep up with the advanced pcm? and maybe that's while it stalls at idle.
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