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Unread 08-10-2013, 10:04 PM   #1
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Could my 5.9 pull a trailer with another Jeep/Camaro on it ?

Just wondering...

My Jeep is in top shape so far as far what I have fixed... doesn't leak anymore. plenum is done, new alt, new power steering ect.. Tranny has been good for the 3 years ive had it... The only problem I noticed is it makes a weird noise in the rear above 65mph but its been doing that since I got it... other then that I have driven 600 mile trips in it no problem..


So basically my mom wants to leave Virginia, we have 3 cars and I think I will go with her back to Arizona. So you see my predicament ? She suggested we drive 2 vehicles down then drive 1 up and drive the other back but that's like crazy amount of miles driving lol... I suggested to get a U-Haul trailer and put either her Camaro or the 4.0.. Most likely the Camaro because the Jeep has cargo.. So yea... if I keep the speeds around 55-60mph think itll be ok ? I've never driven with any kind of trailer however

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Unread 08-10-2013, 10:24 PM   #2
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Will it pull it? Sure

Make sure your cooling system is in top shape. That noise in the rear would concern me though, could be bearings going out in the diff.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 10:36 PM   #3
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I've done nearly 5,000 miles with this so far this summer. It's the 5.2 and a '97. No issues other than losing the muffler. Keep up on your maintenance and check it over every fuel stop!
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Unread 08-10-2013, 10:47 PM   #4
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Just wondering...

My Jeep is in top shape so far as far what I have fixed... doesn't leak anymore. plenum is done, new alt, new power steering ect.. Tranny has been good for the 3 years ive had it... The only problem I noticed is it makes a weird noise in the rear above 65mph but its been doing that since I got it... other then that I have driven 600 mile trips in it no problem..


So basically my mom wants to leave Virginia, we have 3 cars and I think I will go with her back to Arizona. So you see my predicament ? She suggested we drive 2 vehicles down then drive 1 up and drive the other back but that's like crazy amount of miles driving lol... I suggested to get a U-Haul trailer and put either her Camaro or the 4.0.. Most likely the Camaro because the Jeep has cargo.. So yea... if I keep the speeds around 55-60mph think itll be ok ? I've never driven with any kind of trailer however
I dont think U-Haul will let you tow that much with thier trailer. They have a 'towing calculator' on thier website and I entered my 98 towing a 89 Wrangler and it said 'not compatible'.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 10:54 PM   #5
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Notable fact: the 5.9 has a lower tow rating than the 5.2, because it makes a lot more heat. Keep that in mind, especially in summer. The niner and the 4.0 have the same rating, 5000lbs, according to my research.

Also, Uhaul trailers are galvanized and heavy as hell. Around 1000lbs for the full car trailer as I recall. If you take that 1000lb trailer and put a car as heavy as a Camaro on it, you're not necessarily gonna have a good day. Now, if it's an older Camaro, pre-F-body, it should be fine, but if you're talking about towing a Zeta, put the other ZJ on the trailer, at least that'll look funny.

If you're doing a full move from Virginia to Arizona, you might consider renting a Uhaul truck with a trailer, loading it up, and putting whatever vehicle on the back, then using one of the Jeeps to make up the rest of the transport. This adds another vehicle, but the added vehicle is a safe tow vehicle with enough rated capacity to move most of a house while pulling a trailer. (Uhaul trucks are all equipped with OEM tow gear and Uhaul brake controllers and even the small van is a full ton van) You'll still need to tow one of the vehicles, but this way you're not using a laden Grand Cherokee to tow another car on a galvanized Uhaul trailer, cross-country, in August, without a brake controller.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 11:01 PM   #6
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Notable fact: the 5.9 has a lower tow rating than the 5.2, because it makes a lot more heat. Keep that in mind, especially in summer. The niner and the 4.0 have the same rating, 5000lbs, according to my research.

Also, Uhaul trailers are galvanized and heavy as hell. Around 1000lbs for the full car trailer as I recall. If you take that 1000lb trailer and put a car as heavy as a Camaro on it, you're not necessarily gonna have a good day. Now, if it's an older Camaro, pre-F-body, it should be fine, but if you're talking about towing a Zeta, put the other ZJ on the trailer, at least that'll look funny.

If you're doing a full move from Virginia to Arizona, you might consider renting a Uhaul truck with a trailer, loading it up, and putting whatever vehicle on the back, then using one of the Jeeps to make up the rest of the transport. This adds another vehicle, but the added vehicle is a safe tow vehicle with enough rated capacity to move most of a house while pulling a trailer. (Uhaul trucks are all equipped with OEM tow gear and Uhaul brake controllers and even the small van is a full ton van) You'll still need to tow one of the vehicles, but this way you're not using a laden Grand Cherokee to tow another car on a galvanized Uhaul trailer, cross-country, in August, without a brake controller.


Thier auto transport trailer is 2200 lbs.. Empty!


http://www.uhaul.com/Reservations/Eq....aspx?model=AT
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Unread 08-10-2013, 11:09 PM   #7
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I recommend getting a uhaul truck to.....or at the least trailer brakes.....ZJ brakes suck
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Unread 08-10-2013, 11:20 PM   #8
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I recommend getting a uhaul truck to.....or at the least trailer brakes.....ZJ brakes suck
uhaul car trailers have surge brakes, i used one to tow a 69 grand prix home last summer
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Unread 08-10-2013, 11:22 PM   #9
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I dont think U-Haul will let you tow that much with thier trailer. They have a 'towing calculator' on thier website and I entered my 98 towing a 89 Wrangler and it said 'not compatible'.
you can lie if you really want to. when i had to tow a 69 grand prix on one of their trailers, i knew it would be too heavy, so i told them i was towing a suzuki samurai
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Unread 08-10-2013, 11:25 PM   #10
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uhaul car trailers have surge brakes, i used one to tow a 69 grand prix home last summer
My braking distance fully loaded was pitiful
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Unread 08-10-2013, 11:28 PM   #11
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No ill be pulling the 2013 Camaro.. we don't need a uhaul truck because well be renting the house with the furniture and put some things in storage.. Im not sure what she wants to do honestly... shes just going bat **** crazy latetly.. about her job.. her ex is stalking her.. she wants out.. long story..

The thing with the diff is im thinking it is the bearing.. the noise it makes tho is weird.. at 60mph under its very quiet no howling nothing.. at 65-75mph when road makes the vehicle rock up and down it makes a uhhhnn uhhn uhhn noise.. I noticed tho when the vehicle is loaded with 4 passengers or a lot of weight in the back it doesn't make that noise anymore but it does have a slight rumble.. I've changed the gear oil on it twice and I noticed both times compared to the front it gets really dirty.. the front would still be honey colored the back would be dark colord.. The gears look great tho, but obviously I cant see the bearing in the back.

As for my cooling. my cooling system on the Jeep is in top shape, new water pump, thermostat, new coolant from the plenum fix I did recently.. new electric fan, new fan sensors from a jy 5.9, and the tranny is bypassed into a 22,000 gvw hayden looped cooler.
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Unread 08-11-2013, 12:42 AM   #12
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The noise could be a tire out of balance or out of round...or a wheel bearing going bad....

Uhaul is overly cautious with their car trailers....either tell them your hauling something really light, or borrow a big heavy truck to pick it up, then swap it out....
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Unread 08-11-2013, 01:19 AM   #13
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Dell isn't the tires it did it with my old set of tires before I replaced them and went bigger.. I don't think its the sway bar back there either. If it were a wheel bearing wouldn't it do it at all speeds ? I just dunno why it only does it at 65mph and goes away above 75.

This issue is literally the last issue on my Jeep I need to fix.. im finally done fixing everything on the Jeep im pretty happy lol only took 3 years of slow maintenance and learning.. (well cept for my sunroof which broke recently but I sealed that thing up lol) Problem is im afraid to bring it to a shop I've fixed everything myself.. I haven't had a shop do anything to my Jeep.. at all cept mount new tires lol.. I doubt ill be able to do this myself tho.. altho I was told I could take the carrier out by simply unbolting those 4 bolts on the carrier bearings and pulling It out and checking out the bearings and pinion.. but I don't see what that would do.. i dunno, i know a shop is gonna charge me an arm and leg just to diagnose it and i don't know of any good shops who do work on axles here.. a lot of these shops i really dislike when i talked to them about my plenum and other problems they were pretty clueless and it really shocked me.. i don't want them touching my car
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Unread 08-11-2013, 03:07 AM   #14
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Uhaul is overly cautious with their car trailers....either tell them your hauling something really light, or borrow a big heavy truck to pick it up, then swap it out....
Exactly. We do it all the time. U-Haul doesn't want you pulling a Radio Flyer with a Peterbuilt, so they leave you little choice but to lie. Truth told, they don't really care-- they just don't want the liability.
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Unread 08-11-2013, 05:47 AM   #15
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Why not rent a tow dolly? Much lighter than a trailer.
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