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Unread 12-27-2006, 11:10 AM   #1
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Clunk clunk front end suspension noise. Need help/advise.

I have been hearing clunks everytime I hit a pothole on my *stock* 98 ZJ. I have about 106k miles on it. I had new tires put on earlier this year and the guy said I cannot get an alignment done since the tie-rods are worn out. I realized that I have not been applying grease to the steering/suspension compenents for the last 20k miles or so. So, I am assuming that they are indeed worn out. How dumb of me not to lube them.

My question for the experts out here is what needs to be changed/replaced on the suspension. I looked under the front and this is what I noticed when I applied grease to the suspension/steering parts.

1. As soon as I pumped grease, it started to come out of the rubber housing/fitting from a small hole on almost all of them. So, it needs replacement.
2. I lifted the front end and when I move the tire left-right, I hear a little bit of that "clunk" noise... very faint... but it is there. No play when I move the tire up-down... so the bearing is good I assume.
3. A friend of mine said I just need to replace tie rod ends. If so, where can I get the correct parts? Online? Local autozone/checker/Advanced/NAPA stores?

I drove the Jeep almost 3000+ miles and it runs great... but, I hate going on bad roads since the noise is too much for me... personally. I plan to do this job myself and of course, get it aligned immediately after putting new parts.

Any advise, suggestions, links to DIYs, etc will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys!!

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Unread 12-27-2006, 11:13 AM   #2
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anti sway bar end links . Upper bushing, probably ripped and the ball is detaching from its cup joint.
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Unread 12-27-2006, 11:32 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply....

So, I wud need new links? This area is new to me... Can you please tell me what parts will I need?
How difficult is this task?

Thanks again!
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Unread 12-27-2006, 11:51 AM   #4
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Do this. Have someone start the GC and turn the wheel left and right. You get in front and look at the link between the drag link and the pitman arm. Is it going up and down as the wheel turns? If so it needs to be replaced.
Now you mentioned wheel hub units. If, with the wheel off the ground you can move your tire/wheel back and forth then your wheel hubs are going. Up and down movement indicates bad ball joints.
And leaking grease boots will ruin the joint some can be replaced.
That should get you started.
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Unread 12-27-2006, 11:58 AM   #5
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anti sway bar end links . Upper bushing, probably ripped and the ball is detaching from its cup joint.
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Unread 12-27-2006, 12:16 PM   #6
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okay thats a little severe . sometimes the endlinks look good until you rock the body from side to side and see the play in the upper joint. This is how you would check the ball joints. You can take a pair of channel lock pliers and squeeze the tie rod ends to check for any play. You can also jack up one of the front tires and put a pipe or piece of 2x4 under the tire and pull up on the tire while you watch the upper and lower balljoints and see if there is any play in them. If there is any play they are bad and should be replaced. Honestly I dont think it is your tierod ends and I think its your endlinks.
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Unread 12-27-2006, 12:19 PM   #7
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Yep that happened to me last year. Not too bad to install. I see you have a 98. Make sure you get the right parts. The first set I got wasnt even close.
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Unread 12-27-2006, 12:21 PM   #8
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you may have gotten a set from a WJ.
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Unread 12-27-2006, 12:59 PM   #9
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Cool, thanks for the pics! That helps!! If it is the endlinks, it is an easy job methinks.

I was shopping for sway bar bushings last month and the guy over at Checker auto parts there suggested that I replace the links as well. Should have done it when it was a bit warmer then.
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Unread 12-27-2006, 03:49 PM   #10
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I meant to include this earlier:

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That is a great pic. I will have to save that one.
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Unread 01-02-2007, 10:22 AM   #12
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Wanted to drop a quick thanks! Problem was traced to wrong sway bar bushing I had put in couple of months ago. Instead of 26mm, I had 28mm. I replaced that yesterday and all noise is gone! I had also purchased the sway bar end links, but I will return those today.

Thanks for the inputs guys and have a happy new year!
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