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Unread 03-28-2013, 09:10 AM   #1
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clicking while turning in 4wd

noticed yesterday while i was out on the trails that the zj started clicking up front when i turned either left or right but only in 4wd, all 3 stages of 4wd. binding at the same time also. i did use the search but bash if you must but if you could slip a link in there while you do it would be appreciated done a 249/242 swap and ujoint drive shaft upgrade about 2 yrs ago with no problems until now. ive seen this before in my 249 but this is not as severe, no hopping and not binding as tight. front axle is cv shafts but the boots are in good shpe so i dont see anything wrong there. any info needed that i left out let me know. thought i was passd this when i chunked the 249!

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Unread 03-28-2013, 04:08 PM   #2
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Sounds like cv joints in one of your front axles. Are your axles still cv type? Even though the boots are good they still go bad. The reason they would only do it in 4WD is because thats the only time power is applied to the front and they start clicking usually only when turning. I'm sure someone else will chime in but i'm sure that's your issue. Hope that helps.
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Unread 03-28-2013, 04:13 PM   #3
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BTW: They are fairly easy to change out and run around $50-$65 a piece I think. You might only need one.
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Unread 03-28-2013, 06:19 PM   #4
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Thanks. I beat myself up over it all day while I was wheeling,......"why only in 4wd, I don't get it, don't seem right....." Then I realized all the cv's I dealt with were fwd! Then it made sense duh!

While were here....pros and cons on u-joint swap..... I don't plan on going bigger the 33's ever but Jus wondering if its worth it. Like said I already swapped the front ds for u-joint.........
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Unread 03-28-2013, 09:10 PM   #5
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Thanks. I beat myself up over it all day while I was wheeling,......"why only in 4wd, I don't get it, don't seem right....." Then I realized all the cv's I dealt with were fwd! Then it made sense duh!
What makes sense is what I explained to ya. When you're in 4WD you're putting torque on those CV's whereas when you're only in 2WD there's no torque on the CV.

ujoints are fine for close to stock angles, and equal pinion/t-case output angles

if you go high, or cut and turn the front axle, you will NEED a cv joint just to run over 15 mph without vibration. CV's can take more of an angle then a u-joint.



Just Google u-joint vs CV 's
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Unread 03-28-2013, 09:15 PM   #6
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What makes since is what I explained to ya. When you're in 4WD you're putting torque on those CV's whereas when you're only in 2WD there's no torque on the CV.
That's when it made "since" to me! While you were telling me! Lol
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Unread 03-28-2013, 09:20 PM   #7
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That's when it made "since" to me! While you were telling me! Lol
Since when have you ever had any sense?....lol
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Unread 03-28-2013, 09:23 PM   #8
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Since when have you ever had any sense?....lol
I've made sense since cents where less then dollars
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Unread 03-28-2013, 09:33 PM   #9
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Hey Guys, I just seen that the cv/ u-joint axle swap mentioned...is this a direct swap? I have u-joint style axles in my 96 grand cherokee, but broke the tone ring for the ABS and when under 20 MPH it kicks the ABS in...and the replacement axles are pricey.... any info would be great... thanks
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Unread 03-28-2013, 09:47 PM   #10
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I believe they are direct swap. my 98 has CV's in the 35 up front. Did any of the 96 models have a CV, if so then that's what I'd go for; unless you're lifted and have around a 35" tire. The CV's for mine run about $80. Unless you want to try to save money, then just go to a junkyard and pick up the axle you need.

Here...read up: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/c...e-swap-598221/
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Unread 03-29-2013, 10:59 PM   #11
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Thanks...I get a discount through my local parts store and can get new CV style axles for $45 each...nice... I also found that dorman sells the ABS tone ring...Anyone know how they get replaced? there only about $15 apiece...
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Unread 03-30-2013, 01:01 PM   #12
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Are you sure the tone ring is broken? Any dirt in the tone ring can cause a misreading and kick in the ABS. If the tone ring is not lose like in the below video then check all the teeth for any debris on both sides of your Jeep. I know the video below is not of a Jeeps tone ring on a u-joint shaft being replaced but it should give you an idea.

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Unread 04-05-2013, 02:45 AM   #13
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Oh yeah there broke....that'll happen when you hit them with a hammer... Got the new ones today...so just have to tear it all back apart and install them...
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