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Unread 06-23-2013, 08:28 AM   #106
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You would have to be crazy to buy a new car. Worst investment possible besides a boat maybe.

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Unread 06-23-2013, 10:35 AM   #107
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That is pretty much the opposite of everything I've read on the subject.
The jeeps that have been in these accidents were not trailer hitch-less. Most had aftermarket hitches. The uhaul, Weston, Reese, and a few others have sharper edges on the mounting brackets than a factory mopar hitch, and that is what is puncturing the tank.

At least that's what all of my research points at.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 11:04 AM   #108
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You would have to be crazy to buy a new car. Worst investment possible besides a boat maybe.
I would never buy a used car, its just buying someone else's problems.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 11:10 AM   #109
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I don't like anything newer that I can't work on. Besides the cost...

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Unread 06-23-2013, 11:12 AM   #110
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I would never buy a used car, its just buying someone else's problems.
That's not always true. While 90% of the time sure. I bought my ZJ used and I haven't had one serious problem, other then it marking its territory everywhere I go. Some people will actually not screw people over when selling a vehicle.

Besides cars now a days are becoming computers them selves, requiring computers to fix them. These vehicles will probably do a way with the home mechanic. What happened to needing a screw driver to fix things, now you need a damn degree from MIT for computer programming.
Not to mention everything is made in china. Before cars were American. People had to pay attention to the way a car ran or how it sounded to diagnose problems now with all the noise dampening and sound proofing, you can't do anything to your car without looking for a check engine light. Using a Chinese scanner to tell what your Chinese vehicles problems are. Probably bird flu or whatever they have over there.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 02:08 PM   #111
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Yikes, some of you folks really need to adjust your understanding of "free". Just because its free to you doesn't make it free. Someone, somewhere, in some way, is paying your bill. NOTHING is free. Quit being so friggin' selfish. Its this "gimme my freebies" attitude that is the single largest burden on America today, why our nation is crumbling around us, and is also the key reason we ended up with what is the inarguably the worst/most corrupt president and government in American history. There are simply too many hands the free government cookie jar. But hey, they're free cookies, right? Why not take em if they're free, right? Free food stamps! Free healthcare! Free welfare checks! Free rent!! Free trailer hitches! FREE FREE FREE!!! YAY for me, its all free!!

When our Founding Fathers dubbed America "The Land Of The Free", I don't think this is what they meant. Grow up and realize that your free lunch was paid for by someone else. Mighta been free to YOU, but it wasn't really free. Its a very simple concept and if you can't understand it, its only because you don't want to. As for these trailer hitches, you'll see the cost of them reflected in all sorts of things Chrysler sells and services. You'll pay for it next time you buy a more expensive Dodge, or get a more expensive repair, or even just buy a more expensive part. And what REALLY sucks is, I ain't gonna go get my "free" hitch yet I still get to pay for all the people who do. Yup, its the new liberal American way--- soak the makers and reward the takers.
So how much do you suspect your share of that "everybody gets a free hitch" bill is? Maybe a couple hundredths of a cent, if that? Hey, I pay my taxes, you don't see me complaining.
Seems to me the problem with this country is everybody wants to place blame on somebody else. We did a lot better when we didn't complain all the time and we all worked together instead of infighting all the time.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 02:17 PM   #112
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Theres not a very good chance ill buy another new chrysler product.Ill buy another new car but it will be something that will hold its value not like a dodge lol where you paid too much for it as soon as you drive it off the lot it looses more than half the value.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 02:19 PM   #113
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I would never buy a used car, its just buying someone else's problems.
Not anymore. Used cars today are pretty reliable. A new car is a total waste. You could buy a used car now a days and run it until it dies then buy another one and you still would never come close to spending what you would on a new car which promptly loses value right after. Nor would you have a payment.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 02:24 PM   #114
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Not anymore. Used cars today are pretty reliable. A new car is a total waste. You could buy a used car now a days and run it until it dies then buy another one and you still would never come close to spending what you would on a new car which promptly loses value right after. Nor would you have a payment.
Cheaper to pay and fix someone else's problems than that new cars ~$30,000 price tag too

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Unread 06-23-2013, 02:29 PM   #115
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Cheaper to pay and fix someone else's problems than that new cars ~$30,000 price tag too

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Not only that, new cars also have problems and they have restrictions due to warranties unless you pay at the dealer. Then you spend hours at the dealer trying to get it taken care of. Your not free to take them anywhere else because they will void the warranty. Like you are trapped.

My Acura TL had problems. Nothing like paying 33,000 dollars only to have the gear shifter top come apart, the chrome rub off the plastic A symbol, rear clunking, leather seats deforming, and may other little cheap build quality defects. I could understand that happening with an inexpensive used car but not with something that cost so much. That was pretty much the last time I bought new and will ever.

The only "new car" I would even be interested in buying "if" I decided to would be a Cadillac CTSV or the CTSV wagon. Other than that there are plenty of 4x4's, muscle cars, and econo boxes at a much lower cost than to get ripped off again.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 02:34 PM   #116
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You would have to be crazy to buy a new car. Worst investment possible besides a boat maybe.
Yup. If it flies, f___s, or floats...it's gonna cost money and be a pain in the azz.

As a life long boat owner.....B.O.A.T.= break out another thousand.

Cars arent investments for the most part....they are "USE assets"....as opposed to "invested assets".
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Unread 06-23-2013, 02:51 PM   #117
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The only "new car" I would even be interested in buying "if" I decided to would be a Cadillac CTSV or the CTSV wagon. Other than that there are plenty of 4x4's, muscle cars, and econo boxes at a much lower cost than to get ripped off again.
You would buy a new caddy? eww. way to cheap looking for me id rather have a lexus.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 03:20 PM   #118
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You would buy a new caddy? eww. way to cheap looking for me id rather have a lexus.
Just buy the cheaper toyota version of what you want. Same car, different name
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:11 PM   #119
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You would buy a new caddy? eww. way to cheap looking for me id rather have a lexus.
Have you seen the specs on the CTSV?
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:54 PM   #120
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Not only that, new cars also have problems and they have restrictions due to warranties unless you pay at the dealer. Then you spend hours at the dealer trying to get it taken care of. Your not free to take them anywhere else because they will void the warranty. Like you are trapped.

My Acura TL had problems. Nothing like paying 33,000 dollars only to have the gear shifter top come apart, the chrome rub off the plastic A symbol, rear clunking, leather seats deforming, and may other little cheap build quality defects. I could understand that happening with an inexpensive used car but not with something that cost so much. That was pretty much the last time I bought new and will ever.

The only "new car" I would even be interested in buying "if" I decided to would be a Cadillac CTSV or the CTSV wagon. Other than that there are plenty of 4x4's, muscle cars, and econo boxes at a much lower cost than to get ripped off again.
Not exactly correct,if you have a warranty issue,yes the dealer needs to repair the vehicle,however you can take your car to any mechanice or do the work yourself such as oil changes and what not and you will not void the warranty,if anyone questions that,look up the magnuson-moss warranty act
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