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Unread 11-11-2011, 10:29 PM   #31
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Don't forget some take like 10 lbs of pressure to compress. So he could have got like a 40 lb lift lmao

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Unread 11-14-2011, 01:33 PM   #32
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lemme guess the rear stops bouncing about a mile down the road?
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No because you hit another bump in that mile

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thats true too...mine does that too...i figured they were defective
I just solved this problem on my ZJ!!! Maybe this isn't your problem but I have a suspicion it is. When I put my rough country shocks on I installed them upside down. They will go either way in the rear and nothing really tells you how they should go. Mine went from bouncing for a mile like yours to being nice and stiff after I swapped them around, it made a HUGE difference. Another important thing to know, and you may already, is that the steel sleeve that came with the shocks needs to be inserted in the bottom bushing for proper fitment of the bolt. This will also help reduce play in the shock. Im interested to see if this is your problem, if so I might do a write up on it. Just for clarification the correct way seems to be with the dust boot/skinny end up.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 06:28 PM   #33
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Gas shocks can be mounted either way, body up or down changes the unsprung weight.

No need for a write up on a simple shock install.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 06:55 PM   #34
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Gas shocks can be mounted either way, body up or down changes the unsprung weight.

No need for a write up on a simple shock install.
Not sure exactly what unsprung weight means, I am curious if you want to explain. My shocks are actually hydro not sure what effect that has but it was a day and night difference when a switched them. At highway speeds it was almost dangerous when you hit a bump. I bet others have the same problem.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 07:25 PM   #35
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Not sure exactly what unsprung weight means, I am curious if you want to explain. .
Unsprung weight is weight that moves up and down with the axle.

Sprung weight is everything supported by the springs.

Rule of thumb.....When talking shock and springs, every unsprung pound added has the same effect as adding ten sprung pounds.

Example, a dana 60 frontend is AWESOME but will make your truck ride like azz cause it weighs 350 lbs and it takes the spring/shock rate of a 1 ton pickup to control that amount of mass.

So really a shock should be mounted so the rod end is toward the axle, because the shock body weighs more. This reduces the unsprung weight of the axle.

To the original question...I've had really good luck with KYB shocks on a street vehicle. Excellent dollar to quality ratio. However, I would not choose them if the vehicle was blasting thru mud holes or jumping railroad tracks at 50mph.

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Unread 11-14-2011, 07:46 PM   #36
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Thanks for explaining that! I should have figured that out. I wonder why it was such a drastic improvement for me with the shock body down.
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Thanks for explaining that! I should have figured that out. I wonder why it was such a drastic improvement for me with the shock body down.
Could be valveing

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Unread 11-14-2011, 07:55 PM   #38
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Could be valveing

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That's the only thing I can figure, the valving must be different for fluid moving one way as opposed to the other. How are yours mounted, I thought I saw somewhere that you have the bouncing problem too right?
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Unread 11-14-2011, 08:05 PM   #39
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I'll look tomorrow

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Unread 11-14-2011, 08:38 PM   #40
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mine are mounted with the shock body up
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Unread 11-14-2011, 08:50 PM   #41
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mine are mounted with the shock body up
If you switch them I'm convinced it will fix it. Let me know if you do it, I'm curious.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 09:06 PM   #42
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im gonna try it this weekend im hoping itll fix it
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Unread 11-14-2011, 11:18 PM   #43
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unless it says you can mount upside down dont do it. most twin tube shocks can not be run upside down.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 07:32 AM   #44
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unless it says you can mount upside down dont do it. most twin tube shocks can not be run upside down.
That's the point, we think (or at least I think), they are upside down and that's causing the problem.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 07:42 AM   #45
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If your shock has a metal sleeve to cover the rod that also controls orientation due to water drainage issues. Most sleeved shocks mount the shock body to the axle.
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