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post #31 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 01:18 PM
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I have absolutely no time for FT 4WD. Only reason for it is so city husbands don't have to have their city wives figure out how to throw a lever when the pavement gets a little slick.

Any guess' to how I voted?
That must be why military Humvees are full time 4wd. Because they are all city wives.

Wanting to shift more levers doesn't make you a man but more of a bone head to want to work harder

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post #32 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 01:20 PM
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I wouldn't touch a jeep without FT 4WD, even on dry pavement they handle better. Rain? Bad road? No contest.
The 96+ are essentially RWD until the tires slip so you get the best of both worlds.
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post #33 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 01:34 PM
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That must be why military Humvees are full time 4wd. Because they are all city wives.

Wanting to shift more levers doesn't make you a man but more of a bone head to want to work harder
That has to be the most DS comparison someone could make. Military Humvees need 4WD a heck of a lot more than all but hardcore Grands do. FT on a dedicated play rig, fine i can go with that. On anything that see's the road? Heck no.

And why anyone would want 4WD that automatically kicks in is besides me. That's worse than FT for Lord's sake. Getting into stuff you might need 4WD for....... throw the lever. It's not rocket sceince, the lever is 4" from my knee. Then guess what.... It's like having FT. Wow. I'm not waiting till I start spinning and don't want my rig to do it for me either Thank you very much..
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post #34 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 01:46 PM
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That has to be the most DS comparison someone could make. Military Humvees need 4WD a heck of a lot more than all but hardcore Grands do. FT on a dedicated play rig, fine i can go with that. On anything that see's the road? Heck no.

And why anyone would want 4WD that automatically kicks in is besides me. That's worse than FT for Lord's sake. Getting into stuff you might need 4WD for....... throw the lever. It's not rocket sceince, the lever is 4" from my knee. Then guess what.... It's like having FT. Wow. I'm not waiting till I start spinning and don't want my rig to do it for me either Thank you very much..
What do you have? A 242? maybe they can put more selections on there like FWD so you can drift hahaha

Suit yourself. It's just one persons opinion anyways. No one cares.
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post #35 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 01:48 PM
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That has to be the most DS comparison someone could make. Military Humvees need 4WD a heck of a lot more than all but hardcore Grands do. FT on a dedicated play rig, fine i can go with that. On anything that see's the road? Heck no.

And why anyone would want 4WD that automatically kicks in is besides me. That's worse than FT for Lord's sake. Getting into stuff you might need 4WD for....... throw the lever. It's not rocket sceince, the lever is 4" from my knee. Then guess what.... It's like having FT. Wow. I'm not waiting till I start spinning and don't want my rig to do it for me either Thank you very much..
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post #36 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 01:52 PM
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Besides, there are plenty of vehicles with full time drive trains. Subaru WRX to name one of the most awesome. That thing is a beast and has excellent traction on and off road.
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post #37 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 02:00 PM
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That has to be the most DS comparison someone could make. Military Humvees need 4WD a heck of a lot more than all but hardcore Grands do. FT on a dedicated play rig, fine i can go with that. On anything that see's the road? Heck no.

And why anyone would want 4WD that automatically kicks in is besides me. That's worse than FT for Lord's sake. Getting into stuff you might need 4WD for....... throw the lever. It's not rocket sceince, the lever is 4" from my knee. Then guess what.... It's like having FT. Wow. I'm not waiting till I start spinning and don't want my rig to do it for me either Thank you very much..
I don't think you understand what full time 4WD, it's 100% identical to part time 4x4 except the transfer case is limited slip! All 4 wheels spinning all the time! I can tell you the Torsen torque sensing mechanical differential with selectable locker in my Toyota is better than part time 4x4 in every single scenario and I don't have to push buttons or pull levers.

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post #38 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 02:20 PM
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I thought the original Q was engine choice, not x-fer cases lol.
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post #39 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 02:22 PM
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I thought the original Q was engine choice, not x-fer cases lol.
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post #40 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 09:17 PM
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I wouldn't touch a jeep without FT 4WD, even on dry pavement they handle better. Rain? Bad road? No contest.
You're talking about a JEEP here. It's a purpose built offroad vehicle (well, at least the Wrangler is/was), it's MADE to leave the road, of course it's going to handle like a top heavy brick. It's not a sports car. Last I checked nobody is racing a Jeep in a big time race (there are autocrossers here and there, but it's not hardly made to do that).

I prefer part time 4x4. Less s**t to go wrong inside of the transfercase. Throw a lever and both front and rear wheels are driven at exactly the same speeds at all times while in 4x4.

All about that unibody life.
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post #41 of 102 Old 06-08-2013, 09:51 PM
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I used to have a 94 5.2 and now Im driving a 95 with a 4.0 and I must say, the reliability factor for both are great, but I think that I enjoyed drive the 94 quite a bit more.

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post #42 of 102 Old 06-10-2013, 04:45 PM
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Some ppl like the 4.0 but if your buddie is like me, or any other guy I know, he will always want more power. V8 is a start to that..
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post #43 of 102 Old 06-10-2013, 05:33 PM
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You guys do realize that the economy numbers on the overhead console are off by quite a bit? Mine is off by over 10%. The trip computer might read 22 average, but the actual average will be around 19.5.

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My 98 5.2 gets easily 300+ a tank. Average around 17-18mpg on the interstate at 70mph
Your math doesn't work... The tank is 25 gallons, so having a range of 300 miles means you're only getting 12mpg. If you're filling it before it's empty and only putting in 20 gallons, that's still only 15mpg. If you were actually getting 17mpg, your tank range would be 425 miles.
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post #44 of 102 Old 06-10-2013, 05:52 PM
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I will never look at another 4.0 ZJ.
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post #45 of 102 Old 06-10-2013, 06:42 PM
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You guys do realize that the economy numbers on the overhead console are off by quite a bit? Mine is off by over 10%. The trip computer might read 22 average, but the actual average will be around 19.5.

Your math doesn't work... The tank is 25 gallons, so having a range of 300 miles means you're only getting 12mpg. If you're filling it before it's empty and only putting in 20 gallons, that's still only 15mpg. If you were actually getting 17mpg, your tank range would be 425 miles.
May be right. But I easily get 300+ out of a tank. Which is fine by me. Lol

I can careless about my mpgs. I need it so I pay for it. Lol

Plus I have a lead foot most of the time lol.
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