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post #1 of 14 Old 03-20-2010, 06:52 AM Thread Starter
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Broken Hitch

Hey everyone. I have a pretty big problem. I have a 95 Grand Cherokee and in the past years from towing our camper, the frame where the hitch was mounted had split like a banana. It peeled the frame from back to front. We did a quick weld job a few years ago to get by. I am trying to repair it now and after taking the bumper and brackets and hitch off there are big holes where the bumper brackets are supposed to be mounted. I need new bumper brackets, and to figure out a way to fix the holes and mount a new hitch back on the frame where it used to be. I have a welder and planned on welding some plates in the holes but from some diagrams I saw the jeep has bolts that mount the bumper brackets and the hitch in the same bolt. I don't know how they are mounted and need some helpful solutions. I have some pictures that I can post on soon. Thanks for the help.


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post #2 of 14 Old 03-20-2010, 12:43 PM
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have you considered an after market bumper with a hitch?

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have you considered an after market bumper with a hitch?
No, I am trying to do this very inexpensive. I am actually reusing the hitch that came off of it in the first place because it is still solid. I just need to fix the frame where the bumper and the hitch mount to because they share the same bolts.

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you need to plate the frame and make your own mounting system for the hitch.

'97 zj 5.2, some stuff, some other suff, and some things that even work sometimes.

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you need to plate the frame and make your own mounting system for the hitch.
doing it the same way the manufacturer did it is a lot easier then trying to figure something out on my own. The way it is mounted is pretty ingenious.

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unless yours is much different than my 1997 it's not that clever really. get some channel in 3/16 that fits over the rails snugly, measure the hitch mount locations on it. weld nuts to the "inside" of the c-channel and cut clearance holes in the frame where the bolts go into the stock nut plates. you now have a much more solid mounting surface to work with. i would use flange nuts in a 1/2 13 thread pitch for the mounts.

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unless yours is much different than my 1997 it's not that clever really. get some channel in 3/16 that fits over the rails snugly, measure the hitch mount locations on it. weld nuts to the "inside" of the c-channel and cut clearance holes in the frame where the bolts go into the stock nut plates. you now have a much more solid mounting surface to work with. i would use flange nuts in a 1/2 13 thread pitch for the mounts.
How would I put the bumper back on then? The bumper brackets and the hitch share the same hardware but there is a nut welded to the bumper bracket and a bolt is threaded into that, the bolt has no head but had nuts on each end with the frame of the jeep between them.

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doing it the same way the manufacturer did it is a lot easier then trying to figure something out on my own. The way it is mounted is pretty ingenious.
Doing it the way the manufacturer did..................failed. Plate it and be done.

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Doing it the way the manufacturer did..................failed. Plate it and be done.
Actually the manufacturer didn't fail. It was user failure. My dad hooked our camper up wrong and the weight if the camper at the incorrect angle ripped it off. I figured out a way to do it. I guess nobody has ever fixed a similar problem.

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lots of people(not here) have plated the rear frame there for addition of a much stronger rear bumper and hitch combination.

it really isn't that hard to figure out some bracketry.

'97 zj 5.2, some stuff, some other suff, and some things that even work sometimes.

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unless yours is much different than my 1997 it's not that clever really. get some channel in 3/16 that fits over the rails snugly, measure the hitch mount locations on it. weld nuts to the "inside" of the c-channel and cut clearance holes in the frame where the bolts go into the stock nut plates. you now have a much more solid mounting surface to work with. i would use flange nuts in a 1/2 13 thread pitch for the mounts.
Thanks everyone for the help! I actually did it very similar to this but ordered new bumper brackets and bolts that threaded into the bumper brackets and the other end of the bolts where also threaded so I drilled holes through the new frame that I welded on using c-channel and bolted the hitch up to those. I would have taken pictures but I was kind of in a rush and didn't have a vehicle while working on it. The hitch works great and tows like a champ. Hope the welds hold up! Thanks again!

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Actually the manufacturer didn't fail. It was user failure. My dad hooked our camper up wrong and the weight if the camper at the incorrect angle ripped it off. I figured out a way to do it. I guess nobody has ever fixed a similar problem.
How did you get the bolts out. I just bought some PB blast (as mine are rusty) I was just figuring on loosening them with a pair of vice grips. Please tell me how you did it.
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The bolts are attached to the rear bumper brackets. I have to replace the frame on both sides where these brackets go so I went to the dealer and ordered new bumper brackets because I couldn't find them anywhere else. I didn't loosen the bolts because the old ones that where rusty and apart of the bumper brackets came out with the part of the frame I took out.

I would think that PB and an impact would get them though if that is what you are trying to do. Otherwise you can get a removal socket that grips the nut with a reverse thread. I usually always break the bolt off with this method though because things are so rusty.

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How did you get the bolts out. I just bought some PB blast (as mine are rusty) I was just figuring on loosening them with a pair of vice grips. Please tell me how you did it.
Drilled ours out even after an extractor got stuck in there LOL. Bumper brackets can be bought at moparpartsoverstock.com
The bolts, if you can save them, is good. Theyre rare..i purchased two a month ago and there were only under 20 new,unused bolts in the country according to moparparts
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