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Unread 06-08-2013, 08:52 PM   #16
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dang, how much are you guys paying per wheel at that size? Just goes to show wheel sizes are not universal through different companies.
16's are generally more expensive due to the odd size but treadwrights are not. My guard dogs were 108 per tire.

https://www.treadwright.com/p-36-245...dog-m-t-e.aspx

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16's are generally more expensive due to the odd size but treadwrights are not. My guard dogs were 108 per tire.

https://www.treadwright.com/p-36-245...dog-m-t-e.aspx
I have the treadwright 31's wardens, ran me about 98 a tire on the 15" rim. Less aggressive tread though. Wasn't going to complain with those that's for sure. Love the tires, love the price.

how are the guard dogs. Was considering them but with how much street she sees as my DD I didn't wanna burn them down.
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They are wearing excellent. I will probably have to ditch them from age rather than wear. They are a higher pitched noise than muds but nothing too loud. They were quite loud when I got them but after they broke in they quieted down. I have had them for about a year and a half maybe. I'd have to check the receipt.
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Unread 06-08-2013, 09:14 PM   #19
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My stock 'Niner came from the previous owner with 255/70-16 GoodYears on it that were old as hell. Noisy, rough they were, but they didn't rub anything. They came off today for a new set of BFG Long Trails in the stock size. My "Niner is 99% highway work.
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They are wearing excellent. I will probably have to ditch them from age rather than wear. They are a higher pitched noise than muds but nothing too loud. They were quite loud when I got them but after they broke in they quieted down. I have had them for about a year and a half maybe. I'd have to check the receipt.
Mine we're a little noisy at first, much quieter now. I've only had them on for about a month but they seem to be wearing well.
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Really?
ok not definitively but ish lol.
from the FAQ's

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245's will fit fine til you get the BB on. Then you'll want 31's
I did see that but it doesn't really answer my question. It says I need a one inch lift to clear 30 and 31s but many are saying they're running them on stock ride height fine.

I'm thinking of just going with 245/70 or 245/75. Guys are running this size on stock height ok?
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Unread 07-18-2013, 05:32 PM   #22
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I'm running 245/70/16's on my silver 96 and 255/65/16's on my black 96. Plenty O room. Stock height, stock wheels.
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I did see that but it doesn't really answer my question. It says I need a one inch lift to clear 30 and 31s but many are saying they're running them on stock ride height fine.

I'm thinking of just going with 245/70 or 245/75. Guys are running this size on stock height ok?
You can probably fit them in thee with no lift but don't plan on wheeling it very much. Not much room for the tire to move around in the wheel well. I have 245/75's on a 2" BB and I wouldn't want a bigger tire in there when I'm disconnected.

If you want them for looks then you can fit them. Probably need some less backspaced rims or wheel spacers.
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Unread 07-18-2013, 09:47 PM   #24
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You can probably fit them in thee with no lift but don't plan on wheeling it very much. Not much room for the tire to move around in the wheel well. I have 245/75's on a 2" BB and I wouldn't want a bigger tire in there when I'm disconnected.

If you want them for looks then you can fit them. Probably need some less backspaced rims or wheel spacers.
Understood. Is there a reasonable compromise where I could get a little bigger size than stock but still have enough room for some light off road work?
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You could just put the bigger tire on and extend the bumpstops. It will limit the flex but it won't eat into the fender.If you don't need the articulation then it will be fine.
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You could just put the bigger tire on and extend the bumpstops. It will limit the flex but it won't eat into the fender.If you don't need the articulation then it will be fine.
Forgive me but could you elaborate on that? I'm still relatively new to this stuff and I'm not sure what extending the bump stops means or how you would go about doing that.

As an alternative would you recommend just sticking with stock tire size or is there a size that would be larger but a happy compromise of performance and clearance.
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Forgive me but could you elaborate on that? I'm still relatively new to this stuff and I'm not sure what extending the bump stops means or how you would go about doing that.

As an alternative would you recommend just sticking with stock tire size or is there a size that would be larger but a happy compromise of performance and clearance.
Look inside your coils, there's a post sticking down, then a rubber pad at the bottom. throw a hockey puck or 2 with something to glue them (I used rtv black) on the bottom pad. When the wheel on that side goes up, the part sticking down and then the hockey puck glued to your spring retainer ontop of the axle will contact, preventing the tire from rubbing on the inside of the wheel well.

For performance it depends on what you're looking for. I had (still have them in my garage) a set of kumho a/t's that were great on the trail. They were 245's. Paid about 600 for 4 at discount tire. Now I'm on treadwright 31's world of clearance difference

if you want, get upcountry springs, they provide about 1" or so of lift and give you more clearance. To run 30's. I'm on that plus a bb kit right now, but will be putting on my 3.5" springs soon. So if you're interested in the springs pm me.
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Look inside your coils, there's a post sticking down, then a rubber pad at the bottom. throw a hockey puck or 2 with something to glue them (I used rtv black) on the bottom pad. When the wheel on that side goes up, the part sticking down and then the hockey puck glued to your spring retainer ontop of the axle will contact, preventing the tire from rubbing on the inside of the wheel well.

For performance it depends on what you're looking for. I had (still have them in my garage) a set of kumho a/t's that were great on the trail. They were 245's. Paid about 600 for 4 at discount tire. Now I'm on treadwright 31's world of clearance difference

if you want, get upcountry springs, they provide about 1" or so of lift and give you more clearance. To run 30's. I'm on that plus a bb kit right now, but will be putting on my 3.5" springs soon. So if you're interested in the springs pm me.
sorry to keep rehashing this, but im just trying to wrap my head around everything. how limited will my jeep be if i end up stuffing a 245/70 or 245/75 tire in there? i mean like i said, my off roading will be limited, as its most just my DD. but i do live in a rural area and do not want to be neutered by my tire size if i need or want to get off road a little bit. nothing too crazy, just talking like wooded trails etc. would i really be that limited or do you think i would most likely be ok? im just worried about spending the coin on some nice tires only to find out that i can barely turn or hit a speed bump because i bought them too big.
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sorry to keep rehashing this, but im just trying to wrap my head around everything. how limited will my jeep be if i end up stuffing a 245/70 or 245/75 tire in there? i mean like i said, my off roading will be limited, as its most just my DD. but i do live in a rural area and do not want to be neutered by my tire size if i need or want to get off road a little bit. nothing too crazy, just talking like wooded trails etc. would i really be that limited or do you think i would most likely be ok? im just worried about spending the coin on some nice tires only to find out that i can barely turn or hit a speed bump because i bought them too big.
Will you be buying quick disconnects for your off road use? If not just put the larger tire in there and bump stop it.

If you don't need discos then you are not going to need much articulation. You do not need articulation in mud. Just over larger rocks, ruts, or trees.
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Will you be buying quick disconnects for your off road use? If not just put the larger tire in there and bump stop it.

If you don't need discos then you are not going to need much articulation. You do not need articulation in mud. Just over larger rocks, ruts, or trees.
This..and with the upcountry springs I had and my 245's I had no issues with rub. I never disco'd til I put on my 31s
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