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post #61 of 366 Old 12-26-2006, 12:29 PM
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jeep_on,

Don't worry about a pissing match, I'm not upset at all.

You comment on how secure the first ZJ is/was: Matt pulled that thing from Pittsburgh to Moab and back, it stayed on the trailer just fine.






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How much trimming would I need to do to fit 42's with just a BB?
With a 2" BB, you would have trim quite a bit, if you get your hands on a 2.25" BB, everything is just bolt up, even the full widths.

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post #62 of 366 Old 12-26-2006, 12:33 PM
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Yeah the extra .25" makes a huge difference when you are running full width axles.

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post #63 of 366 Old 12-26-2006, 12:34 PM
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Well I figure with enough backspacing (like a -4" backspacing) and wide enough axles, it would be wider then the body and no trimming would be necessary at all

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post #64 of 366 Old 12-26-2006, 12:38 PM
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Right........

I think I'll just crawl back in my hole now. I now feel less smart thanks to this.

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post #65 of 366 Old 12-26-2006, 05:12 PM
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I have every interest in going off road. That thing is just over kill. Its to damn wide / high to make it into some places I could get a stocker into. Mite as well own a Hummer if you gonna have some thing like that.

I applaud him on taking the time to do this. I know it must have taken a lot of trial and error to get every thing to work right. Its just over kill is all I'm saying. Can't drive it on the street, can't trailer it, so unless he has a huge back yard, its worthless.

Why would he want to go somewhere you can only bring your stocker? Where is the challange? You cant bring your stocker on the Rubicon now can you? I guess every rig that is not stock like yours is just overkill then? Where is there a height limit on a trail? Its not like he is taking this thing to the mall or through the Burger King drive through. I agree with everyone else that you have nothing to back up your statements with and that you should just stop posting.

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post #66 of 366 Old 12-26-2006, 05:17 PM
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Tim,

Iím not gonna get into a pissing match over a ZJ here. Granted, that beastly thing could probably climb over a house, but it would useless in any thing other than rocks / sand. But hey, thatís what its built for right? It would be completely useless on a real trail out in the woods some where. Great for climbing a rock face, not so great to run the trails with the boys on the weekend.

Okay, you got me on the trailer thing, but look at that first ZJ (I think thatís what it is) Its not even on the deck, its got its tires up on the fenders. Iím sure that thing is real safe like thatÖ Sure it will stay there the first speed bump you go over. And the other ZJ, well ya, I totally forgot about deck-over trailer. Their nice since you donít have to worry about the fenders taking up space.

Lifted Jeep are nice, than theres just overkill.

It would rule in every situation. Why would it not be good in mud. Those must be some hardcore trails your bringing your stocker on if he cant bring his huge ZJ on some of your "real trails." Even so, the rig is purpose built, just like everyone elses rig, and just like your rig. He likes rocks, and you like hardcore stocker trails. I guess his rig is worthless to you, but maybe not to him.

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AW,

that is great work. I can't imagine the time and effort you've put into your jeep. If I dropped off mine, and couple grand, could you hook a brother up?


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post #68 of 366 Old 12-29-2006, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
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AW,

that is great work. I can't imagine the time and effort you've put into your jeep. If I dropped off mine, and couple grand, could you hook a brother up?


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You know I would...

Ive done FARRRR more work for other peeps rigs than my own !


Oh and jeep-on, we do have trees here in CA... and my ZJ is 85" wide 95" tall which is a great ratio, better than 8" kit on stock axles I can tell you that.

And a side note my trailer is 83" wide (deck side to side). So 2" hanging over with a 15" wide tire is not an issue.


It funny that someone can think that I can build this monster ZJ, and not get all the other stuff figured out... like trailer, where to wheel... and so on.


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post #69 of 366 Old 12-30-2006, 01:49 AM
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AW that is an awesome rig and right now I am hell bent on building something quite similar, just not as much lift. We will see when it's done how it pans out. In the mean time sweet rig you got there!!! I've seen your junk on MC and it is definatley a sweet build!

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Jerod you plannin on a Rubicon run anytime soon, or are you lookin at GSR for your next one?

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post #71 of 366 Old 12-30-2006, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
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Jerod you plannin on a Rubicon run anytime soon, or are you lookin at GSR for your next one?

Im not sure... I need a tow rig before I do GSW, but now Ill do the Con, but the rig is still not done...Ill post more pics tonight.

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Yeah he was a little wide, but he got through just fine.


That looks like a tight trail, even a TJ would be a little wide.

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post #73 of 366 Old 12-30-2006, 08:34 PM
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Yeah a TJ lost a fender flare permanently on that run. My whip snagged a few trees, but I came out with just a few new racing stripes.

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post #74 of 366 Old 12-30-2006, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
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some pics from today...









I had to refab ALL 4 rear long arms since I pushed the rear axle back 4-5" or so... I still have to move the Upper Coil mounts back, no bigge tomorrows project, and maybe build an upper shock truss/mount.

Fuel tank is the biggest issue at this point, I need to figure that out, before she sees dirt.

I also have a front Line Lock to install.

And the wheel base is now 112"

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post #75 of 366 Old 12-30-2006, 08:52 PM
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Looks sick...

Those tires look so massive on a ZJ

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