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post #1 of 27 Old 12-13-2009, 08:21 AM Thread Starter
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Bad double cardan in front DS

So I thought that one of my 2 u-joints in my front DS was going bad because I was getting a "chirping" noise that I had a few months back when one of them did go bad. I took out the DS yesterday, and the whole double cardan wouldn't move freely around. I had to put a lot of effort into moving it. There was no seal on the middle part (ball joint part), and it seemed that a ring was loose in there, but around the ball joint.
How can i fix this? I cannot go to autozone and buy a whole new DS for 350, and it has the CV joint part on the DS near the diff.
I'm going to just put some grease in it for now to hopefully quiet it down a bit. It chirps like crazy and I can hear it doing about 35 mph.


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(Sold) 1997 Grand Cherokee Limited: V8 5.2L, 2" BB, 31" Dick Cepeks.
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post #2 of 27 Old 12-13-2009, 08:25 AM
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wow that sucks man

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post #3 of 27 Old 12-13-2009, 09:09 AM Thread Starter
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so i found this on CL - 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee Transfer Case w/ front driveshaft

if I offer some money for just the DS, would that double cardan be the right size? Will the driveshaft maybe even just swap right in? I'll offer him $20 for it.

1997 Grand Cherokee Orvis: V8 5.2L, stock.
(Sold) 1998 Cherokee Sport: 4.0L I6, Stock.
(Sold) 1990 Cherokee: 4.0L I6, 4.5" Lift, 33" BFG's.
(Sold) 1997 Grand Cherokee Limited: V8 5.2L, 2" BB, 31" Dick Cepeks.
(Sold) 1999 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 4.7L, Stock.
(Sold) 1996 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 5.2L ,3.5" lift, 32" Tires
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post #4 of 27 Old 12-13-2009, 09:21 AM
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You can also take the shaft to a driveline shop for repair/rebuild, or do it yourself. SEARCH. There are numerous thereads on driveshaft rebuild , some iin the last week.

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The one on craigslist probably has issues, too. Lube yours up and run with it.
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post #6 of 27 Old 12-13-2009, 09:22 AM Thread Starter
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will that last long though?

1997 Grand Cherokee Orvis: V8 5.2L, stock.
(Sold) 1998 Cherokee Sport: 4.0L I6, Stock.
(Sold) 1990 Cherokee: 4.0L I6, 4.5" Lift, 33" BFG's.
(Sold) 1997 Grand Cherokee Limited: V8 5.2L, 2" BB, 31" Dick Cepeks.
(Sold) 1999 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 4.7L, Stock.
(Sold) 1996 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 5.2L ,3.5" lift, 32" Tires
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a whole driveshaft?

1997 Grand Cherokee Orvis: V8 5.2L, stock.
(Sold) 1998 Cherokee Sport: 4.0L I6, Stock.
(Sold) 1990 Cherokee: 4.0L I6, 4.5" Lift, 33" BFG's.
(Sold) 1997 Grand Cherokee Limited: V8 5.2L, 2" BB, 31" Dick Cepeks.
(Sold) 1999 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 4.7L, Stock.
(Sold) 1996 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 5.2L ,3.5" lift, 32" Tires
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Can't you just rebuild it? I think I remember seeing a thread on it last year.

Edit: Found it: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...w-pics-480311/

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post #10 of 27 Old 12-13-2009, 10:28 AM
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Check Ebay. I bought a pinion yoke from a TJ for $12 and a double cardan X u joint driveshaft from a GC for $60.
Everything bolted right up. I have a 249 TC.
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Just re-do yours mine took me 2.5 hours and a busted thumb(I use the hammer and socket method) use this as a guide, same applies for ZJ, I believe:
TJ Front Drive Shaft CV Maintenance

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Can't you just rebuild it? I think I remember seeing a thread on it last year.

Edit: Found it: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...w-pics-480311/
hmm. seems pretty decent. Do you think I might be able to buy these parts at pepboys, autozone, or even napa? i believe the closest driveshaft shop near me is miles away.

1997 Grand Cherokee Orvis: V8 5.2L, stock.
(Sold) 1998 Cherokee Sport: 4.0L I6, Stock.
(Sold) 1990 Cherokee: 4.0L I6, 4.5" Lift, 33" BFG's.
(Sold) 1997 Grand Cherokee Limited: V8 5.2L, 2" BB, 31" Dick Cepeks.
(Sold) 1999 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 4.7L, Stock.
(Sold) 1996 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 5.2L ,3.5" lift, 32" Tires
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I'm sure napa would either have them or could have them the next day.

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would the part numbers be the same as from that write up to napa?

1997 Grand Cherokee Orvis: V8 5.2L, stock.
(Sold) 1998 Cherokee Sport: 4.0L I6, Stock.
(Sold) 1990 Cherokee: 4.0L I6, 4.5" Lift, 33" BFG's.
(Sold) 1997 Grand Cherokee Limited: V8 5.2L, 2" BB, 31" Dick Cepeks.
(Sold) 1999 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 4.7L, Stock.
(Sold) 1996 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 5.2L ,3.5" lift, 32" Tires
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Just re-do yours mine took me 2.5 hours and a busted thumb(I use the hammer and socket method) use this as a guide, same applies for ZJ, I believe:
TJ Front Drive Shaft CV Maintenance
I work down the street from Napa, so tomorrow I'll be taking a drive down there.
So the list goes as what I should be buying -

Spicer ball centering kit
2 U-joints
CV repair Kit

is that all?
the repair seems pretty easy

1997 Grand Cherokee Orvis: V8 5.2L, stock.
(Sold) 1998 Cherokee Sport: 4.0L I6, Stock.
(Sold) 1990 Cherokee: 4.0L I6, 4.5" Lift, 33" BFG's.
(Sold) 1997 Grand Cherokee Limited: V8 5.2L, 2" BB, 31" Dick Cepeks.
(Sold) 1999 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 4.7L, Stock.
(Sold) 1996 Grand Cherokee Laredo: Build Thread; V8 5.2L ,3.5" lift, 32" Tires
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