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post #1 of 15 Old 09-01-2013, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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97 zj, separating the door panels...???

alright, don't know if i just can't get the keywords right or if no one has really posted on this.

i'm going wanting/going to take the top portion of the door panel, heat has made it peal away from the top (previous owner also chewed the arm rest portion i think too), and recover it with vinyl and some foam backing.

has anyone any tips or walk through doing this?

if not, would anyone like me to take pics and show what i end up doing and end results?

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post #2 of 15 Old 09-01-2013, 07:49 PM
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Why not just get a replacment at the jy im sure there really cheap.
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post #3 of 15 Old 09-01-2013, 08:24 PM
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I'd love to see pics/write up. My front passenger door panel is getting really bad. It has crossed my mind to try and replace the vinyl.
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post #4 of 15 Old 09-01-2013, 09:20 PM
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I have this issue as well on both my door panels. My passenger side is peeling quite badly.

I was told one method is to remove it and reseal it with new glue/adhesive. I have no idea how to do this and if I have to guess it would probably involve removing the panel off the door and maybe that will expose the rear side of the vinyl.

I could be wrong so I would also like some help in this matter.
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post #5 of 15 Old 09-01-2013, 09:21 PM
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There is a TSB for the door panels. I'm sure you'd get charged through the roof for the replacement parts from the dealership, and I've tried looking elsewhere and been unsuccessful. But you might want to give it a shot.

More info on another jeepforum.com thread

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post #6 of 15 Old 09-02-2013, 12:35 AM
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On the backside of the door panel, cut the plastic rivet heads off flush with a razor blade or something similar but don't drill them out. You can re-attach the armrest panel using short screws in the rivet holes. Also try your best not to remove any of the foam cushioning of the armrest when you peel off the old vinyl, because this is what gives it its shape. If yours is like mine was, the foam was already messed up from where the original vinyl cracked and pretty much SOL on using it. If you try to apply vinyl over the messed up foam you will feel and see all the imperfections.
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post #7 of 15 Old 09-02-2013, 04:52 AM
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Heres where I did something along the lines.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/b...-pics-1229778/

I know I have a bolster kit but I don't remember for what door in agate. I'll check later.

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lol...if life is as a simple as a 5.9 making you happy, I'd say go ahead and buy it on impulse. ZJs are the way of Zen. Wax on, wax off
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post #8 of 15 Old 09-02-2013, 10:26 AM
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Why not just swap over the whole pannel coral? I saw now difference in the bolsters.
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post #9 of 15 Old 09-02-2013, 10:42 AM
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I was having problems finding decent 5.9 panels. The leather would be good but the upper panel would always be faded. I found some non faded regular laredo panels and swapped in the 5.9 bolsters.

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lol...if life is as a simple as a 5.9 making you happy, I'd say go ahead and buy it on impulse. ZJs are the way of Zen. Wax on, wax off
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post #10 of 15 Old 09-17-2013, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
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ok, so i'll to you all this much, finally had time to finish up one door panel. serveral things to note, first and foremost, DO NOT TRY THIS UNLESS YOU ARE AMAZING at interiors...

i took lots of pictures along the way but unless you just want me to shame myself (or if they would help you) i won't post them up...

taking them apart wasn't bad at all, i couldn't cut them, and didn't want to drill, but a large flat edge screw driver did the trick pretty quick.

the problem comes from not having the correct material and a way to vacuum seal/form the material onto all those curves around the arm rest...

its an improvement from my old door panel, but only because now it doesn't leave marks on my arm...but looks wise, i guess i'll just put up with it until i can either find a good deal at a part-out or JY door panels that i can swap around
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post #11 of 15 Old 09-18-2013, 05:57 PM
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I'd like some pictures if you don't mind. I tried contact cementing mine months ago and it held for a month then pulled apart again, so I'm looking for a change.

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post #12 of 15 Old 09-18-2013, 06:25 PM
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Don't feel bad I tried to upholster my own as well and had the same issue trying to make it form to the original shape. I'm no interior man that is for sure. On the plus side though, I did use a generous amount of padding underneath so the armrest is more comfortable now
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post #13 of 15 Old 09-18-2013, 06:28 PM
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im pretty sure a heat gun will help in forming it.
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post #14 of 15 Old 09-18-2013, 06:40 PM
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Yea I just suck at working with vinyl or fabrics in general really. Couldn't really figure out the whole stretch around curves deal. It does look like the original foam and vinyl were somehow attached with a vacuum technique
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post #15 of 15 Old 09-19-2013, 04:15 PM Thread Starter
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Ill post some pics tonight when im near the computer
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