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Unread 04-15-2015, 03:36 PM   #1
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96ZJ Directionals Shorting out

Ok guys I'm a new member or should I say sort of. The reason I say that is I've been coming here for information here and there for a very long time. I have been finding info here and there to help me along during that time. So know I haven't been able to find what I need to resolve an issue so I thought it was time to become a member and actually ask for help. Ok, with that said, I have been having a problem with my directional on my ZJ. There is what I believe is an intermittent short someplace that I just can not seems to locate. I have been using a tone generator pugged into the fuse that is constantly blowing. I have traced the wires to all 4 lights without being able to resolve the issue. The fuse is #6 in the fuse box that keeps blowing. I know that when it goes it knocks out the overhead info center along with the directional themselves. I have been trying to use a Haynes electrical system diagram to find the issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated, also can anyone tell me what else fuse #6 controls? Again any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance guys.

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Unread 04-15-2015, 05:03 PM   #2
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Info center lights and display or just lights? The wiring in the overhead is fragile and many complaints have been originated there.

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Unread 04-15-2015, 05:23 PM   #3
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Hey Coralman...thanks for the schematic. Its the directional and overhead that go out when fuse #6 blows. I cant seem to find the problem. You know, a broken wire or maybe something that has rubbed through somewhere some how. I will take a look in the over head though thanks.
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Unread 04-16-2015, 06:00 AM   #4
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Not in the overhead....

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Hey Coralman...thanks for the schematic. Its the directional and overhead that go out when fuse #6 blows. I cant seem to find the problem. You know, a broken wire or maybe something that has rubbed through somewhere some how. I will take a look in the over head though thanks.
CORALMAN....thanks for the schematic ....but it doesn't seem to be in the overhead...but I'll keep going forward.....



guys...162 views only 2 suggestions....help me here please ...I would appreciate it...any suggestions.....

thanks again Coralman
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Unread 04-16-2015, 06:42 AM   #5
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Maybe because 160 members, and I would be the 161st, don't really know where your problem exists, as it could lie anywhere within the turn signal circuit. Our TSing recommendations would probably be the same as the stuff you're already doing.

When you say "intermittant", do you mean that you can use the signals for a period of time and then all of the sudden the fuse blows? Most likely that would be an exposed positive wire in the circuit adjacent to the frame (ground) somewhere that makes contact (blows the fuse) sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't (signals work fine). On the other hand, if you're sitting in your driveway, for instance, and turn the signal on, and it works, but only for like 10-15 seconds or so, that would indicate resistance in the circuit, building up heat, and blowing the fuse.

Just thought I'd ask a couple questions.
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Do your backup lights and running lights work when #6 fuse is blown? If I'm reading the schematic correctly at the bottom it looks like those along with the NSS are on the same #6 fuse. Even though you have a trans skid you may want to check out the NSS wires/connector if it's on the same circuit. Good luck.
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Unread 04-16-2015, 10:06 AM   #7
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Maybe because 160 members, and I would be the 161st, don't really know where your problem exists, as it could lie anywhere within the turn signal circuit. Our TSing recommendations would probably be the same as the stuff you're already doing.

When you say "intermittant", do you mean that you can use the signals for a period of time and then all of the sudden the fuse blows? Most likely that would be an exposed positive wire in the circuit adjacent to the frame (ground) somewhere that makes contact (blows the fuse) sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't (signals work fine). On the other hand, if you're sitting in your driveway, for instance, and turn the signal on, and it works, but only for like 10-15 seconds or so, that would indicate resistance in the circuit, building up heat, and blowing the fuse.

Just thought I'd ask a couple questions.
Thanks for your reply,
Yes you got it ...what is happening is I can replace a fuse and they will work. Then I make a turn or hit a bit of rough pavement and there out! So it looks like I will just have to keep looking I must be missing something. I don't think total frustration has really set in but you input is appreciated
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Unread 04-16-2015, 10:21 AM   #8
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Do your backup lights and running lights work when #6 fuse is blown? If I'm reading the schematic correctly at the bottom it looks like those along with the NSS are on the same #6 fuse. Even though you have a trans skid you may want to check out the NSS wires/connector if it's on the same circuit. Good luck.

Hey thanks for your input,

Yes my back ups work along with the running lights ...the only things I see that are affected are the directional and overhead. But I will looking at the
NSS...hey it could be anything at this point.

Thanks again
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Wiring in the steering column?
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Unread 04-16-2015, 12:29 PM   #10
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Thanks for checking back

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Wiring in the steering column?
Hey Coralman,

Thanks for checking back....yep today I'm off from the grind !!! And I'm looking at just that as we speak. Thanks for checking back again.
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Unread 04-16-2015, 07:52 PM   #11
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thanks for the link

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Coralman...

I just realized you sent a link...thanks for all of the great info...
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The wiring in the overhead is fragile and many complaints have been originated there.
most likely ^^^^^
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OMG..........frustration has set in .................. Im about to spend cash I don't wana spent for a trace tool.............probably still wont find LOL !!!!!!!!!!!
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