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post #1 of 28 Old 07-09-2009, 10:05 AM Thread Starter
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5.9 swap, will this work?

Hello everyone! I found out the hard way that my jeep is not a submarine and now my 5.2 has a knock that is worsening.

I found a guy parting out a 2002 RAM 1500 and he has the 5.9 engine with wiring harness and ECU, trans, transfer case and some other parts.

Will this motor work? Do I need the 46RE? Will his ECU work, do I even need a different one? Will the TC work? Any info is appreciated as I know very little about this swap.

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- Russ
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post #2 of 28 Old 07-09-2009, 10:23 AM
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all you need is the engine , your intake and sensors , and your PCM will work fine until you get it flashed for performance if needed . the PCM , trans , and t-case are of no use to you at all from the 02
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post #3 of 28 Old 07-09-2009, 10:35 AM Thread Starter
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The seller is including the wiring harness and ECU with the engine, are they useless to me? What else do I need for the swap? Would it be easier to just rebuild my 5.2

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You could always get everything from the seller and then sell what you don't need. Maybe recoup some of your costs...

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Here's the ad, he is asking $1000CAN obo for everything. How should I proceed?

Pulled from a 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 with 140k on it. This is all I have, if it is not listed for sale, I dont have it for sale.
Engine is a 5.9 GAS V8 (NOT the diesel) $600 YOu get the harness as well as the ECU
Automatic transmission $600
Transfercase $100
Rear diff 3.9 ratio, missing calipers, $50

Also have:
-Radiator ($50)
-A/C condensor/fan assy ($50)
-Infiniti CD player ($50) and amp ($50)
-RF headlight ($50)
-Left rear Tail light, used, ok shape ($30)
-3rd brake light assy ($20)
-steering column/wheel (steering wheel not torn or worn out but is getting beat up just sitting there) $20

Make me an offer. I would be really happy to not have to separate the engine/tranny.

- Russ
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the ECU controls the trans , yours a 44RE , his a 46RE . the trans is no good to you , the starter is on the opposite side for starters . The length would require new driveshafts etc etc . The two engines are both OBDII but , to keep things in check with your PCM , run the 96 stuff . Some sensors will be the same , check part numbers for references . The T-case , AFIK , has a different speed sensor and another obstical I'll have to get back to you on , I asked about this before . I had a 5.2/46RE/HD242 sitting in my garage from a 2001
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Just get the motor, then sell the ECU and harness and use your current one.

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What should I pay for the motor?

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It's a nice find for sure , if you get it for $500 , even the $600 considering he's got to separate them , that's not bad for a low K 5.9 IMO
Myself , I would go for just the engine , no harness or ECU/PCM and offer 5 bills , go from there
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Sounds like a good plan to me. I'm terrified of buying the motor and then finding out that I need a ton of other crap. Any thoughts on this? I thought I read somewhere that I needed more parts. Is my starter going to work? Am I understanding that the trans will not work? My trans is fine but who knows for how long after the 5.9 goes in.

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You'll need to get a new flexplate at least. Your current starter should work. Your current trans will work as well.

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post #12 of 28 Old 07-09-2009, 11:56 AM Thread Starter
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Will the flex plate from the '02 Ram work or do I need to order one? If I need to order it do I order it for a '98 5.9 Grand?

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I don't believe the flexplate from the (Dodge) 5.9 will work. Maybe five.nein will chime in with some additional information. He's done a few of these swaps and is a great resource.

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Guessing the flexplate will work. Unless all Magnum V8s don't use the same crank flange, but I think they do. And pretty sure the torque converter bolt holes will line up.
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five.nein how do you feel about the '02 46RE that is attached to the motor? I know I don't NEED it but will it work? Is it not the same tranny that is in a '98 5.9 Grand? I might be able to get it for a reasonable price since the guy would like to not have to separate the two.

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