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Cboy94 11-15-2013 07:22 PM

5.2 Jeep to 5.9 Dodge swap
 
Hey everybody, new here on the forum but I've always read the writeups and browsed the threads for help with my '94 ZJ. Anyway the 5.2 finally died at about 180,000 miles and I'm ready to do the 5.9 swap. I also have a 242 case to swap in.

I know this issue has been beaten to death and if a thread exists with definitive answers to my questions please direct me there.

I have the 46RH transmission. Will I need the torque converter from the donor truck? I know I need the flexplate. I'm going to get mine out of a Dodge, and I'm just going to use my 5.2 intake to deal with the EGR issues. I've read a lot of speculation that the 5.2 computer will do the trick but I'm not so sure about that since I will be using the 5.9 injectors. Also I have heard you need the body control module but I have only read that once no one else mentions that. I am just gonna use my harness and sensors to keep it all OBDI. Don't have smog tests but it just seems easier.

Like I said I know this has been beaten to death but there are a lot of varying opinions and information.

Thanks guys

David97 11-15-2013 08:33 PM

Here's the thread I made when I was considering a 5.9 swap, lots of helpful info there. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/5...tions-1561910/

However, ive since decided, to stick with the 5.2, and build it up instead.

Cboy94 11-15-2013 09:04 PM

Thanks David I appreciate it buddy. My goal is to have it running by April it will be 20 haha

JakobeSVT 11-16-2013 07:41 AM

5.2L to 5.9L swap
 
I have this swap completed in a 96 ZJ, if you have any questions feel free to ask. I used a 98 dodge ram 5.9L engine and transmission.

Issues we ran into: Because I used a dodge ram transmission, we had to accommodate a starter on the driver side, did so buy cutting the end of my starter wiring, soldering in a battery cable and some connections to fit the starter. Looped the wiring loom with the bottom of the oil pan bolts so it looks clean/tucked up. I had to swap the driver side engine mount with a 98 ZJ 5.9L (I replaced both engine mounts mine were toast). You will need headers, you can use the stock exhaust manifolds, the exit/collector drops right at the new starter, I used Hedman Tight Tube headers +spent about $800 on a custom y-pipe, high flow magna-flow catalytic converter, and a magna-flow magnapack muffler. Had to rig up a bracket for the transmission shift linkage/kick down cable.

R&R: We pulled the front clip (radiator, condenser, grille, etc.), and the hood for enough clearance, removed the accessories/bracket (p/s, a/c, alt) and removed both engine and trans. We bolted the new engine and trans together before we stabbed it in, with enough angle dropped her down in. (re-install the accessories after dropping the engine in). The only other wiring problem we had was with the coolant temp sensor, cant remember if I needed a different connector or just had to lengthen the harness but that was no big deal. Everything else clipped right in.

CatSplat 11-16-2013 09:32 AM

OBD1 5.9 swaps are a piece of cake. The 46RH bolts up, and the 5.2 ECU has enough fuel trim to run it just fine. There's literally zero wiring fab. You'll need a Jeep 5.9L driver's side motor mount. As you mentioned, you'll need to the use externally-balanced 5.9L flex plate and harmonic balancer. Torque converter can be a bit of a crap shoot, if you re-use the 5.2 TC you may have to oval a bolt hole or find a different 5.9 flexplate depending on year. Re-use the 5.2 intake (you'll be pulling it for the plenum gasket anyway) and exhaust manifolds - remember to buy gaskets beforehand!

HighLonesome 11-16-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cboy94 (Post 17742089)
I have the 46RH transmission. Will I need the torque converter from the donor truck? I know I need the flexplate. I'm going to get mine out of a Dodge, and I'm just going to use my 5.2 intake to deal with the EGR issues. I've read a lot of speculation that the 5.2 computer will do the trick but I'm not so sure about that since I will be using the 5.9 injectors. Also I have heard you need the body control module but I have only read that once no one else mentions that. I am just gonna use my harness and sensors to keep it all OBDI. Don't have smog tests but it just seems easier.

What year is the donor? Most of your questions depend on that.

You will probably need the torque converter or have to wallow out a hole in the 5.9 flexplate.

The stock 5.2 computer will do nicely. Use the 5.2 injectors, unless the donor is pre '96.

Yes keep it OBD1 entirely. And '94 doesn't have a BCM. :tea:

Cboy94 11-16-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HighLonesome (Post 17752305)
What year is the donor? Most of your questions depend on that.

The stock 5.2 computer will do nicely. Use the 5.2 injectors, unless the donor is pre '96.

I'm not sure, my buddy works at the local pick n pull and is gonna point me in the direction of a truck with a good motor so probably as new as possible. From my understanding that has to do with the fuel rail and possible psi difference?

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Originally Posted by CatSplat (Post 17752185)
Torque converter can be a bit of a crap shoot, if you re-use the 5.2 TC you may have to oval a bolt hole or find a different 5.9 flexplate depending on year.

Is it worth doing the ovaling out if I end up with that situation, I mean the 98 ZJ 5.9 flexplate is only $58, thats nothing compaired to a future headache (i.e. when the motor is buttoned up)

HighLonesome 11-16-2013 01:07 PM

yea psi difference

flexplate for $58, where?

Cboy94 11-16-2013 03:07 PM

Rockauto has them. Rockauto looks so sketchy but I got my motor mounts from them cheap and quick but who knows. I'll probably wait and see what the deal is.

You guys are wizards your knowledge is unending

CatSplat 11-16-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cboy94 (Post 17755657)
Is it worth doing the ovaling out if I end up with that situation, I mean the 98 ZJ 5.9 flexplate is only $58, thats nothing compaired to a future headache (i.e. when the motor is buttoned up)

Well, I ovaled my hole and I've had no problems, but if you have the opportunity to use the matching flex plate and torque convertor then that's certainly the better solution. I used a '94 Dodge 5.9 flex plate and it required ovaling one hole by about 1/8" to mount a '94 5.2/46RH torque convertor, because that's the torque convertor I had on hand and knew it would work with the transmission I was using.

RockAuto is great, I've done a dozen orders from them or more and zero issues to date.


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