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Unread 07-03-2009, 11:28 PM   #1
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4runner vs grand cherokee

I just sold my Lexus is300 and I'm looking to buy a 4runner or a Cherokee. It seems like every time i find a 4runner with everything i want on its sold the next day. How douse the 1996-2002 4runner compare with the Cherokee, And how is the reliability compared to the 4runner .I have a 94 Toyota pickup with 325k trouble free miles i haven't touched the motor besides installing a cam and headers.

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Unread 07-03-2009, 11:30 PM   #2
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This is a Jeep forum. Why are you asking us how a Toyota compares?
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Unread 07-03-2009, 11:59 PM   #3
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Unread 07-04-2009, 12:01 AM   #4
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Unread 07-04-2009, 12:04 AM   #5
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My Ex-Girlfriends dad tried to trade his 96 4Runner for my 1997 Grand Cherokee. Overall without getting to technical as i don't know to much about 4Runners other then the few times i tested it (i knew i wasn't going to trade, but i thought i'd humor him) It drove pretty well, it had 100,000 +/- maybe 7000 miles, i can't remember, but it was around there. It drive smooth onroad with the front IFS, i like the ride height, i liked the 31s, and i personally liked the drivers seat (ergonomics) Reminded me very much of my friends early 90s toyota pickup 2wd. My ex hated being passenger as it was super cramped, and the back seat sucked. Overall i kept my Grand because it was in way better shape, it was more comfortable and my passengers love it. The Grand Cherokee is easily modified to fit 31s, and with solid axles the suspension mods are nearly endless versus the limited modifications (as far as i know on the Toyota) As a side note his transmission blew a few months later, and another friend with a 4Runner blew her engine at 180,000 (didn't know how or details)

I know this is pretty vague and unspecified, but I would pick a Jeep Grand cherokee anyday, In that year range I'd be comparing the 4Runner more along the Lines of the Cherokee (size, luxury) The Grand Cherokees are going to be a step above in comfort and in my opinion offroadablility.

As a side note I had to get my Transfer case serviced once, and i took it to a guy that services SUV transmissions/transfer cases, he told me while the Toyotas are reliable nothing will beat a jeep "IF" well maintained. Jeeps arn't like Yotas or Hondas where you just change the oil, you have to be up to date and do all the big services, diffs, transfer, transmission, engine oil... etc, but if done right they will last forever.
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Unread 07-04-2009, 02:57 AM   #6
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thats all i need to say.
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Unread 07-04-2009, 08:14 AM   #7
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just stay away from the 07 and up G.Cs. they are junk.v6 motor is ugh,tranny shifts all the time.older G.Cs.with inline 6s are great.i have a 94 G.C. and a 99T.J. and a 07 4runner, i know.newer ones give me the yota.just my opinion sorry people.
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Unread 07-04-2009, 08:33 AM   #8
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I've had 2 Toy 4runners. The last one (a 99 limited 4x4) needed a new flex plate at 56K, why? That flexplate lasted 12K then needed another. I traded it to a dealer after that. I also had a 98 limited 4x4 that at 136K had cam bearings go out. I told myself I'd never own another Toyota again. They have no acceleration, poor gas milage (my 00 WJ V8 will get 21 on the highway, my 4runners never broke 17), spartin interior (even in limited trim), cost twice as much as a comparable Grand, and the parts are not as available and more expensive too.
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Unread 07-04-2009, 09:21 AM   #9
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I have had a few 4-Runners , my friend was the sales manager for a Toyota dealership , so I was able to get a few very clean ones for very cheap . They are a great vehicle , for one person ! I have gotten 200k on every one of them , and trust me ,I am not easy on a vehicle .

Now to the bad , they tow for crap , I replaced the head gasket many times ( I cant even remember ) , they have iron block and aluminum heads ( could be other way ) , so the head and the block are always cooling and heating up at different rates , which causes this failure . They never had any power at all , you have to up speed to get onto the highway . Its great if everyone your hauling around is 4 foot with no legs . The cargo area is a lot smaller .

I am married now ( with 8 month old ) so when I had to grow up ( at 40 lol ) I sold my lifted Jeep Wrangler and started looking for a vehicle to handle all my needs , first thing I looked at was another Toy ( I still have connections ) . I took my son and wife and checked a few out . My wife was very eeehhh about them , then she made me climb into the back seat . Needless to say , I now own a Grand Cherokee now with a V-8 150k miles , beats the heck out of the annoying mosquitoes ( idiots with loud economy cars and pipes ) and stows everything I need and will haul my boat like it isn't even behind me .
I hope that helps some , this is all my .02$ if I was single ( smart wife ) and no children , I would probably still be riding around in a Toyota.
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Unread 07-04-2009, 09:22 AM   #10
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My best friend bought a 4Runner in 1994, the same year I bought my XJ. We both got rid of them 2 years ago. The XJ had 430,000kms on it, the 4Runner had 450,000kms on it. Here's a scorecard from those years:

Price: 84 XJ Cherokee Chief: $4,500 with tilt, cruise, int. wipers, stereo, guages, light package, alloys, hitch, console etc. 88 4R: $11,000 base, no tilt, cruise, wipers, console, tach, hitch, or alloys
Head gaskets replaced: XJ 0 4R: 3
Engines replaced: XJ: 1 (mom caught the gas pedal under the floormat!) 4R: 2
Tie rods: XJ: 1 4Runner: 5
Ball Joints: XJ: 0 4Runner: 4
Tires: XJ: 8 4R: 12 (IFS kills tires)
Rear Springs: XJ: 0 4R: 2
Rust through holes: XJ: 2 (behind Pass Rear Wheel, left front fender), 4R: where to start? The frame rusted through and the trailer hitch FELL OFF! Tailgate? Fenders? Hood?
Times failed emissions: XJ: 0 4Runner:6
Price of Alternator: XJ $45 4R $185
Body: XJ: tailgate rattled, door hinges needed shims 4R: rear window wore out mechanism twice ($100 per) bumper rusted off, spare tire rusted off, seat mounts broke
Miles per gallon: the Jeep consistently got better mileage, with more power, on all of our roadtrips!
Replacement bits: The wreckers are full of Jeeps, and parts interchange from 1984 to 2000. 4Runner IFS bits are more year specific, and body parts changed frequently.
3" lifts: XJ: less than $800 (some say less than $200), 4R: OMG!!!
Clearance: Ever look at the gas tank on a 4Runner?
Weight: XJ: 3057lbs (Wiki) 88 4R: 3735lbs ("Decode this reviews" - the later ones got heavier!)

Now I have a Grand Cherokee. He has... a Grand Cherokee!!! He got sick of the price of ownership for an IFS import, and he hated not being able to follow my solid-axle Jeeps. Pay less money, get a lighter, faster, more powerful vehicle, and wheel far better. What more is there to say?
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Unread 07-04-2009, 03:17 PM   #11
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Eh, I'd take a 96+ with E locker if someone offered to trade me for the ZJ. Then again, I might reconsider once I get my lift on.
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Unread 07-04-2009, 05:25 PM   #12
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If I had a quarter for every Grand Cherokee (ZJ and WJ) I've seen with over 180,000 miles, I'd be rich. That speaks volumes on it's own. That's part of the reason I bought my WJ back in April - it had more miles than the others I looked at (113,000 vs ~90,000 average among the others), but I knew it'd have way more life left in it.
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Unread 07-04-2009, 05:42 PM   #13
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Unread 07-04-2009, 05:50 PM   #14
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If I had a quarter for every Grand Cherokee (ZJ and WJ) I've seen with over 180,000 miles, I'd be rich. That speaks volumes on it's own. That's part of the reason I bought my WJ back in April - it had more miles than the others I looked at (113,000 vs ~90,000 average among the others), but I knew it'd have way more life left in it.
thats one of the reasons why i wasn't afraid to buy me WJ with 129K almost 2 years ago. now i'm right @ 200K!!! yeah the 4.0L I6 engine is truly bulletproof if maintained.
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Unread 07-04-2009, 08:06 PM   #15
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Nothing kills the I6. I'm glad the V8 is about as good as the six cylinder. Nothing beats cars that don't need much maintnence.
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