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post #1 of 10 Old 04-02-2006, 12:09 AM Thread Starter
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4 inch lift

ok so i hear u can lift the zjs to about 4 inchs pretty easily i already have a rubicon express bb and i have a set or rubicon tires on there i just really want it to look that extra 2 inches for now so tell me how to get the exta 2 i dont really want to spend any massive amounts of money

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post #2 of 10 Old 04-02-2006, 12:35 AM
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order just the springs for a 3 1/2" lift or 4" lift. look in the for sale section
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keep in mind youre going to need front and rear track bars, and maybe some controll arms if you have bad bushings to prevent death wobble.
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post #5 of 10 Old 04-02-2006, 02:07 PM
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Okay, we're jeepers, so many of us are completely up for the "Down and Dirty F=>R"


So what is it?

The coil springs on a ZJ (production years '92-98) are the exact same diameter inside and out on the front coil springs as they are in the rear.


side note: TJ, XJ, and ZJ all use the same diameter inside and out front coil springs.



The front springs on a ZJ are a bit longer, I don't recall how much longer and they are stiffer. Since they are the same diameter inside and out, you can move them to the rear and it will increase the ride height of the rear end of your ZJ Grand Cherokee.

The front coil springs in a V8 ZJ Grand Cherokee are a bit longer and a bit more stiff than those in the I6 4.0L equipped ZJ Grand Cherokee. The springs from the I6 will not give you the lift you are looking for.

There was a package called "Up-Country" that lifted the ZJ .5"~1" higher than a normal stock height ZJ Grand Cherokee. You can also use this spring as it is even longer and again, a bit more stiff than the normal V8 Spring.


This is all from memory as it has been over 3 years since I had my ZJ, but I do remember this:

UC = Up Country

V8 UC Front Springs when moved to the rear: ~4" of lift
V8 Normal Front Springs when moved to the rear 3"~3.5" of lift

I used Rancho shocks RS5000 shocks all the way around with Rancho 3" springs in the front and normal V8 springs in the rear and added in about 1" spacers for 4.25" of lift in the rear and about 3.75" of lift in the front.

I did not run a rear sway bar, it handled really well for a lifted vehicle. I attribute this due to the stiffer shocks and springs compared to what is normally there.


The total cost? About $100 for the Rach Springs. $45 for the V8 springs if you don't already have a V8. Shocks are $35 each.

You may need a rear adjustable track bar or track bar bracket to recenter the rear axle. The front axle though shifted, was not enough to need a different track bar. Adjustable Track bar was around $140? I think.

You can run your stock shocks till they separate on you if you'd like, but I'd recommend replacing your shocks at the same time.

So, total you are looking at about $340~$450.

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My front ZJ V8 springs with about 60K on them measured 17.5" my uc springs new measured 18 3/4" and my new soon to be installed RE 4.5" lift springs measure 22.5"

The front to rear swap seems to be fairly common in lifting ZJ's.

Hope this helps.

"The front springs on a ZJ are a bit longer, I don't recall how much longer and they are stiffer." quote from above.
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My front ZJ V8 springs with about 60K on them measured 17.5" my uc springs new measured 18 3/4" and my new soon to be installed RE 4.5" lift springs measure 22.5"

The front to rear swap seems to be fairly common in lifting ZJ's.

Hope this helps.

"The front springs on a ZJ are a bit longer, I don't recall how much longer and they are stiffer." quote from above.
are those spring measurements on or off the jeep?

keep in mind different spring stiffnesses plays a role in lift height as well as spring lenght.

ie: a soft 20" spring can have the same lift effect as a stiff 19" spring.
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so If I were to buy a 3" kit like rustys or something, couldnt I just use the 3" and slap some 1.5" rough country spacers on top, for 4.5" of fairly cheap lift? I am looking for enough lift for 285's.
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post #9 of 10 Old 04-02-2006, 07:08 PM
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on top of that youre going to want front and rear track bars, sway bar end links, and for anything bigger then a 32" tire youre going to want adjustable controll arms.
keep in mind shocks, steering stabilizer, alignment. and double check all your bushings. shot bushings can result in DW
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are those spring measurements on or off the jeep?

keep in mind different spring stiffnesses plays a role in lift height as well as spring lenght.

ie: a soft 20" spring can have the same lift effect as a stiff 19" spring.

off the jeep...relaxing on the garage floor.
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