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post #1 of 18 Old 09-11-2012, 07:31 PM Thread Starter
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4.0 ZJ better for mud or trails?

So just bought my 4.0 zj and im tryin to find out if they're better for mud or trails. I've never been hardcore wheelin so i figured i'd see what everone's opinions are first.

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post #2 of 18 Old 09-11-2012, 07:56 PM
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I just use mine going green laning, so thats just like trails. Its all stock except for th E-code light mods i did for when i take it to Ireland.



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post #3 of 18 Old 09-11-2012, 08:34 PM
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ZJ's are great for any type of off-roading. They conquer trails/woods without a problem. I've taken my 4.0L ZJ through some very deep mud and water up to the grille and never had a problem. Though I do have some nice mud terrain tires.

You will be impressed what they can do.

Make sure you have front AND rear recovery. You don't want to use the axle tubes as a tow point.
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post #4 of 18 Old 09-11-2012, 09:01 PM
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Short answer: both.

I have taken mine (stock) to trails in da UP and had a blast. Those trails were made for full off road rigs and I had no issues. Climbed hills in 4 lo, swam through mud, got stuck and thought I was done.. but 4 lo helped me out

They're amazing vehicles, and can do anything you want them to. Just depends on your build
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Short answer: both.

I have taken mine (stock) to trails in da UP and had a blast. Those trails were made for full off road rigs and I had no issues. Climbed hills in 4 lo, swam through mud, got stuck and thought I was done.. but 4 lo helped me out

They're amazing vehicles, and can do anything you want them to. Just depends on your build
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post #6 of 18 Old 09-11-2012, 10:20 PM
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tires will determine what you can actually do and where you can do it. street tires belong on the street, remember that and you'll be fine.

'97 zj 5.2, some stuff, some other suff, and some things that even work sometimes.

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post #7 of 18 Old 09-12-2012, 09:42 AM
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I avoid mud whenever I can.
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post #8 of 18 Old 09-12-2012, 04:15 PM
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I plow through mud whenever I can.

It's a great under coating to deal with the salt in Western New York during the 6 months of winter. I just make sure to clean off the exhaust, motor, bushings and fan.
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post #9 of 18 Old 09-12-2012, 05:27 PM
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I was thinking of mud today as i pulled my spark plugs, i avoid the nasty stuff
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post #10 of 18 Old 09-12-2012, 06:19 PM
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As a resident of mud country, I can assure you that to be better at muddin than trailin on a truck with the ZJs weight....you'd want super aggressive tires and V8 power. Which in turn means you also want some fullsize truck axles to take the abuse.

I really like my ZJ but it's not well suited to the off road conditions around here. 3/4 and 1 ton fullsizes are really where it's at for muddin. The little flyweights (like a samurai) do pretty well, but a ZJ is never gonna weigh that little, so different rules apply.

Also....... mud = water, and ZJ = electronics. Do the math.
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post #11 of 18 Old 09-12-2012, 06:50 PM
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If you know how to flush your components mud and water aren't an issue. My 4.0L goes through mud up to the doors and water up to the grille. The only issue I ever had was having to replace the downstream o2 sensor due to water damage. Just don't go through a water hole if you're worried that you're not going to make it. That's how things get ruined.
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If you know how to flush your components mud and water aren't an issue. My 4.0L goes through mud up to the doors and water up to the grille. The only issue I ever had was having to replace the downstream o2 sensor due to water damage. Just don't go through a water hole if you're worried that you're not going to make it. That's how things get ruined.
My friends and I have all been in as deep of denial as you are, then we got into deeper mud.

Wheel hard when it's wet, and at some point you're gonna watch a river of mud flow through that truck with all 4 doors open, or it's gonna disappear up to the base of the windshield. That's when you'll understand. Good luck, and hope the extraction is an easy one, or that local conditions are rocky 2 feet down!
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post #13 of 18 Old 09-12-2012, 07:09 PM
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Well my ZJ is bone stock as of right now, I was just explaining to the OP that with some nice tires you would be surprised what they are capable of.

I don't plan on river crossing or mud bogging, so I'll never know what it's like to be in your past situation.
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post #14 of 18 Old 09-13-2012, 06:38 PM
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I try to avoid mud unless it's an unavoidable obstacle. My ZJ is awesome on the trails! Seems lots of people like trail riding too...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/w...hread-1403930/

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post #15 of 18 Old 09-13-2012, 10:54 PM
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Stick with the trails. If you want to do a lot of mud you are going to have to mess with sealing up your diffs, your tranny, your t-case.. And the stock axles aren't going to let you run the size of tire you will need to get you through the deeper stuff.

That's not to say you couldn't splash around in a shallow mud hole every now and then just for fun.. But a built mud truck a ZJ is not..
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