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Unread 01-29-2013, 10:32 PM   #61
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You can get a d44 for the front, don't remember what they come off. Or a couple people will build em for you. A common pair is a d44 in the front and a d60/8.8 in the back.

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Unread 01-29-2013, 10:59 PM   #62
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You can get a d44 for the front, don't remember what they come off. Or a couple people will build em for you. A common pair is a d44 in the front and a d60/8.8 in the back.
Isn't it easier to do the D44a in the back?
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Unread 01-29-2013, 11:45 PM   #63
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Much easier but a stock d60 or built 8.8 is a lot stronger and has more aftermarket support for lunchbox, selectables, etc.
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Unread 01-30-2013, 12:02 AM   #64
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33s paired with a dana 60? might be overkill. definitely not much ground clearance.
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Unread 01-30-2013, 04:53 AM   #65
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33s paired with a dana 60? might be overkill. definitely not much ground clearance.
Not even a might about it it. It is 100% over kill 8.8 is way strong enough for 33". Dana 60 is for 40"s

Just run the 33"a with stock axles and build a 8.8 as you go, then when the 35 blows you'll just have to roll the 8.8 in
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Unread 01-30-2013, 06:19 AM   #66
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hi guys, thanks for all infos
so in the end...doing some math: running 33s with lokers (front and rear lokers) i should put a dana 30 hp in the front and a d44a (i already have d44a) in the rear.
but to be sure, i have heavy foot, i should put dana 44 in the forn, and ford 8.8 in rear.
correct?
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And then you're gonna ask, how much to trim for 35s. Measure twice, cut once. Get 4.56s, lockers, whatever axles and 35s.
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hi guys, thanks for all infos
so in the end...doing some math: running 33s with lokers (front and rear lokers) i should put a dana 30 hp in the front and a d44a (i already have d44a) in the rear.
but to be sure, i have heavy foot, i should put dana 44 in the forn, and ford 8.8 in rear.
correct?
Just get the HP30. A 44 will be too much time and money invested. Not worth it. The people who do 44 fronts are running bigger tires than 33s. Even those people with 35s and 37 tires are also discouraged from the 44 because it costs almost as much as a D60 which is significantly stronger that a 44. 44 is a bad option for everyone just about.
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mmm understood thanks, so probably the best way is 30HP front and ford 8.8 rear?
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Unread 01-30-2013, 11:45 AM   #70
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mmm understood thanks, so probably the best way is 30HP front and ford 8.8 rear?
For 33s, yes. It is very popular because it works, and is inexpensive compared to other options. And if you make improvements to the internals of these axles, you should have very few problems breaking anything, probably no problems.
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Unread 01-30-2013, 11:51 AM   #71
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How much can the 8.8 swap cost?
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Unread 01-30-2013, 12:02 PM   #72
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Lets not forget about the XJ rear 44's.. i'm building one now. Width is right, bolt pattern is right.. just need a bracket kit like you would with an 8.8. And no driveshaft adapter.
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Unread 01-30-2013, 12:05 PM   #73
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Are all hp30 axles out of 95' and newer xj's non vaccuum disconects?
YES and they will be 297 ujointed shafts.

There are non CAD HP30's dating back to the 80's, if non ABS they would be 260 ujoint shafts.

95+ and ABS shafts are all the larger ujoints.
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Unread 01-30-2013, 12:08 PM   #74
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8.8 housing = 100-150

brackets or truss with brackets = 250-350

cost goes up from there if you cant weld or have a friend that welds, want to do new rotors or pads, cant find one with same ratio as you stock axle or the HP you are putting in.
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Unread 01-30-2013, 12:14 PM   #75
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8.8 housing = 100-150

brackets or truss with brackets = 250-350

cost goes up from there if you cant weld or have a friend that welds, want to do new rotors or pads, cant find one with same ratio as you stock axle or the HP you are putting in.
How about the d44a?
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