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Unread 02-20-2010, 12:51 PM   #1
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2001 Grand cherokee double cardon

I just bought a 2001 grand cherokee 4.0 with the select trac. The jeep has a 6.5'' Iron rock lift with a transfer case drop. While driving it home the front driveshaft broke and I'm told that I nee to get a double cardon driveshaft but I don't wanna spend 400.00 for on. Has any one had this same problem and what did you do and did it work? Thanks alot



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Unread 02-20-2010, 01:00 PM   #2
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ANOTHER DS THREAD?!


You definately NEED to upgrade to the single/dbl ujointed front drive shaft. Tom woods or the dealership may sell them for $400, but Carolina Driveline can sell you a new shaft with the yokes you need for much cheaper.

You also need to un-install the t-case drop. The grand cherokees dont need them.
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Unread 02-20-2010, 01:10 PM   #3
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I called carolina driveshaft and they want 370.00 for their setup. So it will work fine without the transfer drop, why even put it in then?
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Unread 02-20-2010, 01:19 PM   #4
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The transfer case drop is mainly to help the rear, but in doing so, it worsens the front angle. If you have adjustable rears, you should be able to dial in the rear without the drop kit. The long wheelbase of the WJ helps you here. At 6.5", I'd get a SYE kit anyways, which completely eliminates the drop kit. But that's me.

Carolina is certainly an option, and has been discussed much lately. There are other options, however.

You can source a factory dana/spicer double cardan shaft from a local junkyard or Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market. Get any yokes that you need and you're set. This is a cheaper option (and better overall quality in my opinion), but you may need to slap some new joints in there, which will add a bit to the cost.

Depending on your axle placement and size tires, you may be close to maxing out the stock length shaft stub splines. You can cheaply get a stock double cardan retubed to any length, or of course, go the aftermarket route.

By any chance, did you pick that WJ up in PA? I think I saw it listed somewhat locally. Make the seller reimburse you. Pretty shatty for the front shaft to fail on the way home after the sale.
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I'm kinda new to the whole jeep scene so alot of stuff thats being said is just over my head, do you know of any more detailed write ups that show me what to do with some pictures too?
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Unread 02-20-2010, 01:34 PM   #6
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By any chance, did you pick that WJ up in PA? I think I saw it listed somewhat locally. Make the seller reimburse you. Pretty shatty for the front shaft to fail on the way home after the sale.
The seller is a member here and on JU...MudShark8877 He only had the thing for a few months before putting it up for sale. That made me nervous about what he knew. Good luck on it though, it's still a pretty sweet jeep. Sell all the stock parts/wheels,tires he gave you and that will surely help you pay for a shaft.
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Unread 02-23-2010, 08:37 PM   #7
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Unread 02-27-2010, 10:36 AM   #8
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The transfer case drop is mainly to help the rear, but in doing so, it worsens the front angle. If you have adjustable rears, you should be able to dial in the rear without the drop kit. The long wheelbase of the WJ helps you here. At 6.5", I'd get a SYE kit anyways, which completely eliminates the drop kit. But that's me.

Carolina is certainly an option, and has been discussed much lately. There are other options, however.

You can source a factory dana/spicer double cardan shaft from a local junkyard or Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market. Get any yokes that you need and you're set. This is a cheaper option (and better overall quality in my opinion), but you may need to slap some new joints in there, which will add a bit to the cost.

Depending on your axle placement and size tires, you may be close to maxing out the stock length shaft stub splines. You can cheaply get a stock double cardan retubed to any length, or of course, go the aftermarket route.

By any chance, did you pick that WJ up in PA? I think I saw it listed somewhat locally. Make the seller reimburse you. Pretty shatty for the front shaft to fail on the way home after the sale.
Have you had a chance to figure out what it would cost to get a JY driveshaft and replace all the joints, buy 1 or 2 yokes and get it lengthened vs the cost a new one made for a 6" lifted GC? He is guuna need a dbl/dbl at 6.5"s also. Been there with a single and dbl is the way to go.


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I'm kinda new to the whole jeep scene so alot of stuff thats being said is just over my head, do you know of any more detailed write ups that show me what to do with some pictures too?
My Crappy Rzeppa granaded also. If you were running the stock shaft it was gunna happen sooner or later at 6"s. Call around locally and find out how much it will cost to get a JY shaft (85 bucks here from JY if they have them) 50+ for new joints. Labor for your drive shaft place to put them in and lengthen it to your lift. Then call the for a replacement new one with a dbl cardan or dbl/dble cardan like I have. You wont find dbl/dbl in a JY around here. Then make a decision on what ya want. At 6"+ your gunna want a dbl/dbl. Been there done that with a single and went dbl/dbl.

Here is mine. I dont have a writeup but it was easy if you unbolt the front and back then with a little persuasion with a pry bar and hammer pop the back off first and slide it to the front of the jeep and down (might help if you jack the front of the jeep to extend the shaft). Then do the front.








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Unread 02-27-2010, 05:36 PM   #9
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I went with a double/double from Carolina Driveline on my 4.5" lift replacing my dual CV D/S. the Shaft and yolks came in around $370 the single double was $310 so i just upgraded. Some say it might have been a little overkill but I wanted to be sure if I went any higher on the lift. As far as i know if you get the d/s installed well you get no vibes
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I went with a double/double from Carolina Driveline on my 4.5" lift replacing my dual CV D/S. the Shaft and yolks came in around $370 the single double was $310 so i just upgraded. Some say it might have been a little overkill but I wanted to be sure if I went any higher on the lift. As far as i know if you get the d/s installed well you get no vibes

After you get your shaft be sure to up date the thread to let everyone know good or bad how it is so others can search the forum and get an idea. Their price has gone up since I got mine 4 years ago. But a JK guy in the club here got one locally last week and paid 300 for just the shaft. Guess every thing goes up.
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I just bought a 2001 grand cherokee 4.0 with the select trac. The jeep has a 6.5'' Iron rock lift with a transfer case drop. While driving it home the front driveshaft broke and I'm told that I nee to get a double cardon driveshaft but I don't wanna spend 400.00 for on. Has any one had this same problem and what did you do and did it work? Thanks alot
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Unread 02-27-2010, 06:29 PM   #12
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I'll be sure to post what I do. I'm calling carolina driveshaft Monday and ordering the double/double. I'll post pictures as soon as I get it, Thanks to everyone for all you're help.
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Your Jeep looks nice! Good luck with it.
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Its $300 shipped for a double cardon front driveshaft from Tom Woods.

Thats for any length and the long travel splines.

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Its $300 shipped for a double cardon front driveshaft from Tom Woods.

Thats for any length and the long travel splines.

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That sounds better. Mine was 275 installed from Carolina 4 years and 40k ago.
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