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Unread 08-05-2009, 06:19 AM   #1
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2" Spacers and shocks are on...

I installed the coil spacers I picked up from Fat Bobs Garage and the ProComp 3000 shocks. The spacers were $100 and the shocks were on special buy 3 get one, so I've only got about $225 in the project so far. I like the shocks, especially when they netted out to only $26 a piece. Either my stock shocks were really worse than I thought or these are great shocks because they were a major improvement. Now for tires, I have a buddy with a tire/auto repair shop just ordered me a set of Nitto Terra Grapplers in 265/65/17 for $590: mounted, balanced, tax inc. Should have them on after this weekend...

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The mods I have left are going to be Addco sway bars (the added 2" of COG really gave me more body lean than I anticipated) and a black bull bar with a set of Hellas mounted on it. After that, I'm finished. I don't really feel I need to do anything to the 4.7 HO performance wise. I've only done a cat back and K&N drop in and think that is sufficient.

Any thoughts on the Addco sway bar or Bull Bar recommendations?

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Unread 08-05-2009, 06:52 AM   #2
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Looks sharp, you might have to shave the front bumper 1/4" to fit the 31" tires.

If you dont want a winch, the Waag Brush guards are pretty cool. Here are a few pics, one with the bars over the headlights and one without.





A lot of people just run the rear Addco, if you get the front and want to wheel you might want to look into disconnects for the front.
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Unread 08-05-2009, 07:11 AM   #3
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I don't think I'll have to shave anything off the bumper, but it's no biggie if I do. I understand 245/70/17s fit and they are 30.5". The 265/65/17's are only 30.6" or almost an inch less diameter than a 265/70/17 would be. I like the 265/65 as opposed to the 245/70 for that little bit extra footprint at 10.4" wide as opposed to 9.6" wide.

I was only planning on the Addco sway for the back, didn't even know they made 'em for the front.

As far as the bull bar goes, that one looks nice. I am debating on getting a larger winch for my truck and putting my existing Warn 8000# winch on the front of the Jeep. If I do so, I'll get a front receiver and use the Warn portable mount. The truck really needs a bigger winch, was close to stock weight when I bought the winch, but I've lifted it, put 35" tires on it and with the toolbox full, weighs in at close to 7000#. A lot to ask out of a 8000# winch!
So I may hold off on the Bull Bar and Hella's until I decide on what to do regarding the winch...
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Unread 08-05-2009, 07:13 AM   #4
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The specs for the truck look good, do you have a few pics of it?
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Unread 08-05-2009, 07:18 AM   #5
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Yep, didn't know if it was appropriate for a Jeep forum, I'll stick a couple here. If a mod chooses to delete them, no problem...



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Unread 08-05-2009, 10:41 AM   #6
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Awesome Overland I have the same one but dark silver. I'm about to order the spacers also. Can't wait yours looks really nice.
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Unread 08-05-2009, 10:57 AM   #7
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Awesome Overland I have the same one but dark silver. I'm about to order the spacers also. Can't wait yours looks really nice.
Thanks. Fat Bob's was about the best price I found at $95 for the four spacers. They have a deal where you get the spacers and four ProComp 1000 shocks for $225, but for the same difference, I went with the upgraded ProComp 3000s from 4 Wheel Parts. They are buy 3 get 1 free through the end of August, so at $37 each, they netted to like $27 each. I know a lot of people on here like the Black Diamonds, but I can't imagine the ride being any better. These are awesome for the money. Just remember to get them 2" longer than stock to allow for the spacers...
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Unread 08-05-2009, 06:29 PM   #8
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Did your spacers come with bump stop extensions? I have noticed that some kits do and I am worried that with bigger tires and disconnects in the front that the tires will get shoved into the fenders when it is flexing hard.
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Unread 08-05-2009, 07:45 PM   #9
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Nope, just 4 coil spacers. I'm hoping to have a little room for flex, when I inquired on here and another forum was told I'd have no issue with a 30.5" tire (245/70/17 or 265/65/17) but would have to trim a hair for 265/70/17s. As I stated in my original post, I opted for the 265/65/17s for a little wider footprint than the 245/70/17s. I don't plan on running the Jeep hard, that is what my truck is for. Main reason I went with the 2" spacers are that I needed shocks bad, so it was the time if I ever was gonna lift it. I take the Jeep camping and trout fishing, so I'm talking mainly dirt roads and mild trails.

I also know that the last 3 sets of tires I've had on my last 2 lifted trucks were nowhere near their advertised height either, so that should help if these Nitto's come up shorter than their advertised 30.55".

My current "35x12.5x17" Cepek FCII's on my truck are advertised on their website as 34.9" and when measured to adjust my speedo with my tuner, they actually are only a hair under 34 1/4" tall...
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Unread 08-05-2009, 08:48 PM   #10
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Did your spacers come with bump stop extensions? I have noticed that some kits do and I am worried that with bigger tires and disconnects in the front that the tires will get shoved into the fenders when it is flexing hard.
You won't get the tire into the fender unless you are running something pretty big. I have true 31s and with 2.5" springs barely touch my fender and that is at max flex. A BB won't give you as much flex as springs.
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Unread 08-06-2009, 12:47 PM   #11
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Update: 265/65/17 Nitto Terra Grapplers are installed. Tight would be an understatement. Good bit of room on top for articulation, more so than when the stock size 235/65/17s were on at stock height. But the tire JUST clears the front bumper at full turn, about 1/4" to spare (although trimming looks like it'd be a snap, because its the hidden underside of the bumper which is so close). Also the roughly 10.5" wide tires are close to hitting steering components, but I can just fit a finger in between at any point of the full turning radius, so I think it's good to go.

If it's true that the Overland's Up Country Suspension is a bit taller than the standard suspension, I gotta believe this tire size is not an option for those without it if you are only using 2" coil spacers.

I'll try to get some pics and post 'em either this evening or tomorrow morning. Over-all I'm very pleased with the look!!!
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Unread 08-06-2009, 01:56 PM   #12
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I want your rock sliders

I love how a simple and cheap BB can make a WJ look so mean. I would suggest some wheel spacers to widen the stance.
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Unread 08-06-2009, 06:09 PM   #13
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I want your rock sliders

I love how a simple and cheap BB can make a WJ look so mean. I would suggest some wheel spacers to widen the stance.
Stance is pretty good now, the pics are with the stock size 235/65/17s, the 265/65/17s are about an inch or so wider. That's why I was sweating out clearing everything on the inside, just makes it, I've got about a fingers width at the closest point of turning the wheel. Didn't want to have to get aftermarket wheels with better backspacing or go to spacers if I didn't have to.

I'll have pics up tomorrow, you'll see the difference in the stance...


Now to see how the 2" of lift and larger more aggressive tires effects the fuel economy of my daily driver.....lol
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Unread 08-07-2009, 09:16 AM   #14
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Pics with the new tires as promised:



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Unread 08-07-2009, 09:52 AM   #15
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Very nice, this is just about what I want on my ZJ, just stuck is I want to try a 265 tire or 30x9.50 / 31x10.50, nothing to big.
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