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post #16 of 25 Old 08-13-2013, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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The service manager called a few minutes ago. They said the entire job will cost $1100 but since they feel responsible for most of the trouble, they will only charge me $150 to cover the cost of the evaporator. I agreed to it. They are eating the labor which will take 1.5 days to complete. I have to take my Jeep back on Thursday since they had to order the part.

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post #17 of 25 Old 08-13-2013, 07:29 PM
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Good deal and sounds like a winner! Kinda figured the $600 in labor on their first quote was waay underestimated for what a dealer normally charges for an evaporator replacement.

Wonder if you'd be pushing your luck in asking them to change out the heater core at the same time at your cost? After all they're going to have it sitting right there in front of them with it disconnected and the top of the box off. Believe I'd pay $150 for a new OE heater core and $50 in labor if they agreed to it. Just a thought and you may head off any potential problems down the road. Good luck!
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post #18 of 25 Old 08-13-2013, 07:34 PM
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After I sunk my first ZJ I got it back running but the mud killed the ac and blower motor functions. I just carried a cigarette plug in space heater with me. It was ghetto as hell.
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That's a great idea. I'll ask but I very much doubt they'd agree to those prices. Also, there's a possibility they don't stock it and it would hold up the repair.
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post #20 of 25 Old 08-13-2013, 08:16 PM
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I would say, " Hey since your having to take the a/c out of the jeep and split it in half to get the condenser out. Would you please replace the heater core also". It sits right next to the condenser. They should only charge you for the heater core. Before asking them this. Call up there, ask for parts, and see if they have a heater core in stock and how much it is. You'll be way ahead of them if you do this. I've delt with them enough that I don't no more. They know all the tricks to keep you coming back and spending your hard earned money. I took my jeep in for the water getting in the floor board. They followed the fsm. But instead of drilling straight. They drilled at a downward angle so it would still leak after blowing the leaves out that had it clogged. Told me I would have to bring it back. $1100 to remove the a/c, split it and put a new bottom on it. I caught them by overlooking what they did. Took it back and showed them how the tech drilled at an angle. I argued for an hour with everybody it seemed. The finally agreed to repairing it. After getting it back. I ended up taking the a/c out myself to put three mounting studs back in that they left off. And put a drain hose on it. Now I know it's in right and will never leak inside. I know not everyone is capable of that. It's alot of work.
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post #21 of 25 Old 08-13-2013, 09:02 PM
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Been going some searching and don't see why they wouldn't install a new heater core in it for $200. They'll still most likely be making some money off of it since would say they're using new aftermarket parts.

An OE/Mopar evaporator MSRP online at Mopar-Wholesale is $309, minus $90.70 in savings, for a total of $218.30 plus shipping. And normally they're a lot cheaper than the dealer. So if the dealer is charging you $150 for the new evaporator it almost has to be aftermarket and you may want to ask.

On the same site the heater core MSRP is $150, minus $43.92 in savings, for a total of $106.08 plus shipping. Checked another site and same price. This has to be an aftermarket part, since Mopar/OE heater cores used to be about the same price as evaporators, and most likely similar to the one the dealer would install. And it isn't going to take the mechanic any full hour, at $90-$100/hour, to install the heater core in the open box.

The older our ZJ's get the more parts our outsourced by Chrysler/Jeep. Heck a few years ago the dealer installed an aftermarket/rebuilt PCM from Miami in my 96 4.0! Checked with the guy I know who runs the parts counter at the local dealer last year and he said every PCM they now sell is rebuilt.

The big difference is Chrysler stands behind their warranty on parts they sell. And that brings up another point where the dealer is going to warranty the work they do on the AC system but not sure if they would on the heater core install. But you would think they would if they purchased the part while doing the labor.

Believe it's worth a shot on approaching the dealer on them buying/installing the heater core for $200. And if it delayed getting your ZJ back a day or too later if necessary for ordering the part in it would be worth it. Good luck!
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post #22 of 25 Old 08-14-2013, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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They agreed to replace both the evaporator and heater core for $350 total. The service manager thought it was a good idea too.

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post #23 of 25 Old 08-14-2013, 04:18 PM
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Great, and now we're talking!
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post #24 of 25 Old 09-19-2015, 04:51 PM
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My 98 has some issues. If I charge the system the clutch engages but my rpm go really low as if the compressor is giving a load to the engine. I decided to buy new compressor and dryer so where can I purchase R-134a refrigerant? and how many pounds it takes? can I use several bottles of the OTC version?
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post #25 of 25 Old 09-19-2015, 06:40 PM
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With a completely empty AC system your 98 should hold 28oz of 134a while the OTC brand should be fine. Keep in mind the system also holds 7.75oz of page oil total. Below is some info on amounts and there's a chart a couple posts before mine.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/h.../#post29895097

With your new compressor you'll have to drain the page oil out then measure it while buying/adding additional oil.

If you look at your new compressor warranty you'll see where it's void if you don't flush the AC system out first. This helps to clean out all the water, dirt and oil out.

Not sure about in FL but here some parts stores have loaner AC vacuum pumps and it would be a good idea to use one.

I have a flush kit but they also sell the aerosol cans of AC flush. You may want to splurge for a new liquid/low pressure line with the orifice in it and they're only about $20-$30. Good luck.
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