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Unread 10-17-2011, 11:40 AM   #1
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1998 5.9L ZJ Bi-Xenon HID Projector Retrofit Conversion (Photos & Videos)

Round 3!

Okay, so I ended up doing a headlight retrofit project on my '98 5.9L ZJ, just like with my past Jeeps.

First set on my 1996 ZJ Laredo:


Second set also on my 1996 ZJ Laredo:


Second set on my 1996 ZJ Limited:



For the 5.9L I ordered a Stage III Morimoto MH1 Projector conversion kit from The Retrofit Source. 4300K in color since I like factory white light and the highest lumens as well. All photos are with my POS cell phone, so I apologize for the lacking quality.

Progress:


I'm slightly pissed as I got some melted glue from the lens/housing on the chrome portion of the housing. But, whatever, this is my beater anyway so I'm not too concerned:


After 4 hours of work I am finally finished. I JB welded the spring clips higher as recommended:



Also somewhat hard to see here but the wires for the solenoid were easily visible. With the need/want to finish this project TODAY, I decided to take extreme measures lol... tinfoil wrapped around the wires so it blends a bit nicer:


Final product while the RTV was drying:


Ran the wiring harness, got the ballasts hooked up:


And here they are installed:


I'm incredibly happy with this setup and want to thank The Retrofit Source and specifically Nate for sending me the parts



Here are some shots I took 2 weekss ago. Pardon the slightly blurry shots. I had to hand-hold all these as I left my tripod at home. I used my Nikon D2x. For the night shots I used my Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 VC lens. For the day shots I used my Nikkor 70-300 VR II lens.












Parking lot shots...
Low beams:


High beams:


Low beams:


High beams:


Low beams:


Low beams:




Here's a quick vid I shot. Just to show the setup at night including cutoff and highs. For some reason it seems the driver side high is had a slight hiccup on the one activation. You'll see it in the vid:

Video I took quickly here at work. Daylight, so it's easier to see the setup:


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Unread 10-17-2011, 04:09 PM   #2
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Let me know the costs cause that does give it a mean look. reminds me of the eyes of some monsters from some horror movies. And i like it.
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glad to see this is finally taking off.
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I am as well! Since this is really my beater I don't know how quickly I'll be doing mods. My issue with Jeeps is that I buy a stocker, invest several thousand dollars into a build, then sell it 'cause it's no longer feasible for a winter DD. My last TJ I hated to see sit. I'd rather someone else use it all the time than have it just sit.
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Rick, how will this fare with our state inspections here?

The rotation you mentioned, that will be dealt with by loosening the screws and turning the projector? Excuse me.. i know nothing of these.
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Rick, how will this fare with our state inspections here?

The rotation you mentioned, that will be dealt with by loosening the screws and turning the projector? Excuse me.. i know nothing of these.
Honestly, I'm not sure about legalities with regards to inspections. I'd assume if the ballasts are not in plain view, your low beams and high beams work properly, and you have projectors retro'd into the headlights, that you should pass. BUT, I'm not an inspection mechanic so I honestly can't say for sure.

Regarding Law Enforcement: Every LEO whom I am friends with has stated that they typically don't even have time pull over every idiot with a PnP HID kit in stock reflector housings (I wish they did!). They've stated the ones they do pull over have one thing in common: Non-white headlights. Typically, anything over 5000K in color temp (I personally only run 4300K, which is the factory color). When they pull the vehicle over, they are usually running blue, purple, green, pink, orange, etc, headlights. They will then do the "paper test". This test just consists of the LEO placing a white piece of paper in front of the headlights. If the paper changes color to anything but white, he cites you for it.

This was further confirmed by a convo between a ricer and a LEO on my local car forum. The LEO is from PA:


Ricer: What are the chances of getting pulled for the 8k hids in the headlights, they are not tinted heads just the bezel is black but the housing in the front is clear..Now the fogs will likely get me pulled for them being tinted but I hardly drive at night and its not necessary to use them.

LEO: The chances are 50/50, you either will or you won't. I stop cars for HIDs all the time, have never written a ticket for it but have gotten DUIs and drugs out of them

Ricer: Not being sarcastic or anything but how do u know who has oem hids and who doesn't? And is it legal to pull someone just for hids I always thought it was like a two for one violation. Like if u pull someone for speeding you can be like oh yeah ur lights. *Me: This is a stupid question. If I know which cars come OEM with HID's, then a LEO definitely will.*

And since I'm not a drinker at all and dont use drugs I'm good in that department if I should be pulled.

Thanks for the response as well.

LEO: OEM hids are extremely easy to spot, I do lots of traffic stops just from having so much interaction with all makes and models of vehicles I have come to know which cars are factory and which are not. And then there the drivers who I stop with 12000K lights in a 1991 Civic hatch who try to say they are OEM. 8000K HIDs stand out especially if they are just installed into a stock halogen housing. Beam pattern, light dispersement and beam cutoff are all easy was to spot a car that has aftermarket HIDs.

Yes I can stop you for just one equipment violation, which is what lights would fall under. There are several sections just relating to inspection procedures that aftermarket HIDs violate that make it a lawful stop, there are also tables for total candlepower and light beam color that I can use for the stop to be lawful and finally there are sections for "ornamental lighting" I can use for the stop to be lawful.

Use said information for what you will, there is no clear answer I can give you whether you will be stopped or not other than maybe you will maybe you won't, but yes the situation you describe provides and officer with a lawful reason to stop you.

Ricer: I take your advice seriously..I was just kinda wondering how you could tell and if it was something I could be stopped for.. In no way shape or form am I being sarcastic or anything these were just questions I wanted to clarify with myself.. I hope that I don't get stopped and if I do hopefully the police will be a nice guy/woman like yourself and not give me a ticket..

Thanks again for the time you have taken to answer my questions I really appreciate it..
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What's up Josh! lol. Ready for the snow?
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I gotta wake up early and put my front driveshaft back in as well as the tcase linkage but I should be good! If we do get a bit I will go out and play maybe pull some people out
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looks nice and clean. Great job
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nice clean work man x2


see i love the fact and enginutiy that people have to make projector retro fits but sorry clear lenses on a zj look like **** personally thats one reason i havent bothered trying yet there was a guy who just sanded down a 2x2 section on his orginal lense and retrofited the projector i dont remeber seeing any pics of the cut off line but thats probably what ill do
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Thanks! Crashed into a tree/ditch... will need to find another housing. Fun! http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f27/s...today-1283151/
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-Former Jeeps: XJ, YJ, XJ, YJ, TJ, ZJ, ZJ
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