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Unread 11-01-2012, 10:43 PM   #1
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On October 27th, 2012 I came across a lady in Monument Colorado who was willing to sell her 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Her asking price was $3,400 and in comparison to all of the other Jeeps for sale seemed like a decent price, so I had to check it out. After an hour or so of test driving and evaluating the problems I was able to convince her to go down on the price to $2,400 which fell nicely into my budget. The Jeep came with 166,000 miles and all of its maintenance records, and as we all know that was a big plus! All of the records only help me believe that its going to be lasting for a very long time. Here is a picture of it in the condition that I bought it in.



Looks pretty good, right? Minus the snow and my parents 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited behind it... Now of course there are cosmetics that are wrong, such as the bent antennae, "some" fading paint, minor scratches, a missing fuse panel, and missing visor clips, but all of that can be easily be compensated for. Also, the front drive shaft was disconnected. She told me that the previous owners took it off to save gas (which at the time seemed to make sense to me) but now that I've put it back on I know the underlying condition; I unintentionally inherited the dreaded Viscous Coupling problems associated with the 249 transfer case!



She didn't even have the decency to include the original bolts... oh well! It probably does some good to have new bolts for an old driveshaft anyway! After hours of waxing and washing in my front yard and straightening the antennae I finally cleaned it up good enough to want to show it off! What better place to display it? On top of Mount Baldy overlooking Colorado Springs of course. Here she is! And with a new windshield!!



She gave me new tires too! Off road i was able to max out the suspension and may I say I am extremely proud of the stock suspension. Several times it nearly tipped but it went through everything that all of the Wranglers around me were pushing through!




Tomorrow I plan on going to the salvage yard and plan on grabbing some things to replace the VC till I have enough money to buy a new one. (I have a guy working there who says they have one in working condition) I also want to pick up some of the smaller thing to manage my interior. Tell me what you think!

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Unread 11-01-2012, 10:58 PM   #2
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Looks nice. Take the DS back out. It will wreck havoc on the drive line, tires, and steering components. Finally I got to say "havoc" awesome. I forgot the bolts for my front DS when I pulled at the yard. Shop put some grade 8 bolts with spring washer in it. They hold well. I have the original bolts but I don't see any reason to replace them.
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Unread 11-01-2012, 11:10 PM   #3
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damn, lookin good! good luck on the vc project!
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Unread 11-01-2012, 11:10 PM   #4
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Very true man. I forgot to mention that I took it out yesterday after I found out about the VC problems. I've got some high plans for this Cherokee my friend, I'm very excited indeed.
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Unread 11-01-2012, 11:11 PM   #5
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damn, lookin good! good luck on the vc project!
Thanks man, ill post my process and pictures
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Unread 11-02-2012, 08:50 AM   #6
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Alright, I'm getting ready to head down to Upull&pay and get the VC, some interior components, and door hinges. I'll be back tonight!
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Unread 11-02-2012, 10:18 AM   #7
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Alright, I'm getting ready to head down to Upull&pay and get the VC, some interior components, and door hinges. I'll be back tonight!
Good luck with a used VC. You never know if it's going to be good or not or how much time it has left until it's worn out. You are much better off getting a new replacement. Doing that repair isn't something you want to do twice and you won't know if the used VC is good or not until it's been installed and been driven. Most of them go bad after 100k or 150k if they took care of the tires.
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Unread 11-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #8
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So after a couple days of searching through the junkyard to find a suitable donor I was finally able to find a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited that had been wrecked from a car accident. Since its miles were almost at 200,000 I think that its safe to assume that at some point in time its VC had crapped out and been replaced. This one also has the lowest amount of miles that I could find.



Honestly the yard is a little eerie...



I went ahead and climped underneith it and dropped the tranny and destroyed part of the case because I was a little bored and didn't have the right tools. The next day I did! Those damn torx wrenches and snap ring plyers....




After I got the VC out for 15 dollars it was too dark to continue so I decided to continue the next day. And yes... the VC is very heavy! So I jacked up my Jeep, decided I wanted a challenge and swaped it without dropping the case. It proved to be very difficult indeed.



There's the "newer" VC installed...



And boy does it work like a dream!! According to my calculations I should have anywhere from 10,000 to 90,000 miles till this one dies which means I have plenty of time to save up through college to get a new one, and this one will do just fine.

Here's a comparison of the VC next to each other. The one on the right is the dead on I just pulled out and the one on the left is the "new" one. The dead one seems a little more worn...



Let me know what you think!
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Unread 11-07-2012, 05:41 PM   #9
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That yard has every vehicle jacked up off the ground. Wow. What I would do to have that kind of courtesy at my local yards.
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Unread 11-07-2012, 07:39 PM   #10
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That yard has every vehicle jacked up off the ground. Wow. What I would do to have that kind of courtesy at my local yards.
Around me they have them all on rims that are standing up. Its nice, especially since you can't bring a jack in some places
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Unread 11-07-2012, 08:18 PM   #11
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Around me they have them all on rims that are standing up. Its nice, especially since you can't bring a jack in some places
Yeah that's how mine is too
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Unread 11-08-2012, 04:23 PM   #12
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I think transfer cases changed in 96, and the 93-95 is supposed to use a coupler with a different viscosity/resistance.

Have you had a chance to test it off road to be sure it'll throw power appropriately?

Nice jeep, good luck with the project
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Unread 11-08-2012, 07:14 PM   #13
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Yeah I went down to brush hollow today and it did awesome. It drives so much smoother with the front driveshaft in haha hey, when I got the car it noticed it has this metallic clunking and rattling noise underneath it it the middle of the car. I would tell you where it's coming from but the engine is too loud when I get under there. Any ideas as to what it could be?
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Unread 11-08-2012, 08:45 PM   #14
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Yeah I went down to brush hollow today and it did awesome. It drives so much smoother with the front driveshaft in haha hey, when I got the car it noticed it has this metallic clunking and rattling noise underneath it it the middle of the car. I would tell you where it's coming from but the engine is too loud when I get under there. Any ideas as to what it could be?
Awesome, I just picked up my zj about two weeks ago now. Loving it so far, can't wait to do some real projects on it. Yours looks pretty decent, you have a list of what you want to do to it yet?

As far as the noise, does it change at all when you step on the gas while in park? Or is it tied to the speed at which you are travelling. My exhaust rattles on the rear sway bar. If it is in the middle it could be your catalytic converter is toast...
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Unread 11-08-2012, 08:47 PM   #15
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Awesome, I just picked up my zj about two weeks ago now. Loving it so far, can't wait to do some real projects on it. Yours looks pretty decent, you have a list of what you want to do to it yet?

As far as the noise, does it change at all when you step on the gas while in park? Or is it tied to the speed at which you are travelling. My exhaust rattles on the rear sway bar. If it is in the middle it could be your catalytic converter is toast...
Ehh thats what I was thinking. When I step on the gas initially it gets loud then stops completely but thats probably because my engine is loud haha good news is that catalytic converters are not so expensive! And I'm actually working on my list right now...
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