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Unread 11-11-2004, 10:26 AM   #1
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1994 grand cherokee laredo

Just bought and have some problems and questions:
What are the best jeep question forums for this car? I am all about research and need the best sources thanks
That out of the way,
My jeep has manual climate and for 94 you can get the optional auto climate. Can you adapt it? I was told no but don't see why or why not. Furthermore, can I adapt a newer jeeps dual auto climate?
If it's a wiring issue I can work around that if more is needed i.e. controled by ecu or another comp or something other than what's in the climate please let me know. I know with Porsche and MB you can swap them in and out becuase the brains are all in the climate control module itself.

Also I want to add a cd player any issues? I am going to get an adapter and it appears it's a 1.5 din so I have to get a kit. Cheapest place to buy?

Also the damn sunvisor clips broke good place to get those other than local dealer?

Another thing, it appears that when I run the ac with outside air it draws in quasi hot air and I smell some exhaust fumes possibly? I also sort of hear what sounds like an exhaust leak is this common or any ideas???

I also have to have the ac charged rough cost? I was looking at another forum and it appeared there is a kit for cheap to do it yourself???

Also the drivers lock auto lock doesn't lock the door more than half the time when using the remote or the button on the door. BAd solenoid? any thoughts?
Anything else I should look for or know?
Thanks very much

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Unread 11-11-2004, 10:46 AM   #2
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You can charge the A/c yourself with a charge can from Wally world.


The visor clips are five bucks each at the stealership.



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Unread 11-11-2004, 10:59 AM   #3
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Anyone else on any of the aforementioned?
I did some searching on this and other forums and it appears that you need the outside air temp sensor and light sensor for the auto to work. The outside air temp shows up on the overhead so that should be there and I would think the sunlight sensor might be as I have that auto rear mirror? I think it's all in that one piece however and it's a different sensor that goes in the dash or whatever. Any other ideas? thanks very much. Sean
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Unread 11-11-2004, 11:00 AM   #4
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can you get that recharge kit or whatever from autozone or kragen if so any specifics price and name? what to look for r type etc.? thanks
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Unread 11-11-2004, 11:11 AM   #5
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I also just realized that since my jeep has auto headlights it would have that light sensor also??? Assuming that I can either tap into both or that the wiring is there is that sound and would it work??? Help, gurus!
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Unread 11-11-2004, 12:07 PM   #6
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Your existing AC/Heater control panel uses vacuum tubing to actuate the blend doors, air conditioner, heater, defroster, etc. The closest thing to electronic in that system is the lightbulb behind the switch. There is no provision in the BCM for any other kind of interface. The auto mirror, btw, has nothing at all to do with temperature control. If you look on your dash near the windshield in front of the driver, there should be a small red lensed sensor. That is the ambient light sensor that is used to control the headlights, dash lights, etc. If you look to the right of that, you will see a place for another sensor. That is the one that senses light amplitude and provides input into the BCM for use in the ATC. If you look on the front of the dash, between the glove box and AC control, you will see a little vent looking thing. That is where the inside aire/humidity sensor goes that provides an input to the BCM for the ATC (you don't have one, just a place for it). The automatic climate control unit found in the Grand Cherokee Limited (not in Laredos, not no way, not no how) uses electronics to control the blend doors. It is connected to a system communications buss that transmits data from and to all the onboard sensors, including vehicle speed, and the ambient temperature sensor located behind the grill. This communications buss (which utilizes twisted pair wiring) allows the BCM, PCM, driver door module, and passenger door module to communicate with each other to proved the inputs the ATC requires in order to function.
In other words, no, you can't just swap them out. It would be far more practical to simply buy a Limited.

There is no Hepa filter in the A/C system for your Jeep, so you are going to smell any noxious oder you happen to drive through (turn on recirc to avoid this). If you aren't driving through somebody else's exhaust fumes, and still smell exhaust, I will guess you have the inline six 4.0L engine, and it most likely has a cracked exhaust manifold (very commone with those engines). Get it fixed before you kill yourself. Aftermarked headers are plentiful and cost less than OEM exhaust manifolds. If you decide to upgrade the entire exhaust system, limit your pipe size to no more than 2.5 inches.

What is the existing sound system? If it says Infinity Gold on the speaker grills, then you will have an amp underneath the driver's side passenger seat. This will complicate your stereo upgrade, depending on how you go about it. For ease of installation, customer support, and complete packaging of everything you need, I recommend Crutchfield's. They even have a couple DIN 1.5 head units you might like. For a less expensive place to shop, Walmart sells stereos. Circuit City is somewhere between the two, I hear.

Sunvisor clips are readily available from the dealer for cheap, as Hunter said. Otherwise, eBay always has some listed.

Go to Auto Zone, Advance Auto, or the like and purchase a recharge kit for the R-134a A/C. It is very easy to do. I suggest buying a can with dye in it, then looking for leaks.

A bad door lock actuator may be your problem, but before going to the trouble and expense of replacing it, check the wires in the door jamb. You'll have to peel back the rubber boot to see them. It is very common for wires to flex until they part in there. If any other doors lose functions such as locks or windows, check the driver door wiring first.

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Unread 11-12-2004, 01:10 AM   #7
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much thanks

That really sucks about the ac issue. It would have been a cool deal but whatever. So there is no auto that would work just by adding the sensors alone then or whatever it appears then from any vehicle that would work? Thanks for all of your suggestions. I will look at that wiring in the door jam for sure
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For better sound, I installed a Sony Exploid. Very nice.

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As Warren said, you would have to completely tear your ventilation system apart, buy the components necessary for the conversion (motor operated blend doors, sensors, and bcm) with the money you'd spend to convert, you could trade up to a limited. Plus you would probably never get it to work correctly. Others have tried and failed. My neighbor is one of them. He did everything but the sensors and the bcm. Guess what, now he has to go find a stock ventilation system just to make it work period. Don't mess with it. He already has $400 into it and if he wanted to finish, it would cost another $1500, unless he found every sensor in the junkyard and it worked. He's already looking at another $200 just to repair it period. Don't mess with the controls. Many people who have the automated wish they had the manual type. The blend doors have a tedency of jamming. When that happens it costs a lot to repair. Just trying to save you money and lots of headaches.
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Unread 11-12-2004, 10:26 PM   #10
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ok thanks all for your suggestions and knowledge
Also I grabbed at the wires to the drivers door jam and it didn't really cure the intermitence/non operation of the door lock. I guess it would be that solenoid then?

The main question. my jeep has succomb the the leaking header as I can hear that leak. How difficult is it to replace that header? I looked under the hood and it appears that you would have to undo the colletor, and remove the intake just to get at that header in order to remove it??? Please let me know how bad it is. The header is on ebay for less than 100 Thanks.
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Unread 11-12-2004, 10:36 PM   #11
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You are right, you do have to pull the intake manifold (and a few other items) to change out the exhaust manifold.
I would recommend purchasing a quality header from Nick of kolak@aol.com
The problem with an unknown header (eBay) is the heat problems you will have under your hood. Replacing the stock intake manifold with another stock intake manifold is ok, but the cracking of those things is so common, you are potentially exposing yourself to a reoccurance of the problem. If you are looking at a stocker on eBay, make sure to ask the seller if their manifold has been repaired or is cracked.

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Unread 11-19-2004, 09:57 PM   #12
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The ones on ebay appear to be the new updated ones with the expansion joints to prevent cracking-
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Unread 11-19-2004, 09:59 PM   #13
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btw I found a guy one ebay who has a complete part grand cherokee which he is parting out and I am going get the entire system so it should be fine. What all parts do I need again other than aforementioned? He is going to pull everything. I just want to make sure I have everything for shipping etc. Thanks I know it is a lot of work but if I have the entire system and it was perfect before then thre should be no issues. Thanks again. Sean
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Good luck is all I'll say. It's more complicated than it looks. Let us know how it goes.
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I will. I don't see how it will be too much of a deal other than being a lot of work swapping things in and out. I used to restore cars and have done many modifications in my day so unless there are actual non viable constraints then I don't see what the problem is.
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