ZJ axle shafts in a YJ, CAD eliminate - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles
Go Back JeepForum.com > Models > Jeep Wrangler Forums > YJ Wrangler Technical Forum > ZJ axle shafts in a YJ, CAD eliminate

New Product Release: Flowmaster CA Legal Direct-Fit CatalyPartsHubDirect: Hella LED Lighting, HID Xenon, Headlamps, Hella Rallye 1000 Series 12-Volt/55-Watt Black Magic Halog

Reply
Unread 02-06-2014, 01:31 PM   #1
mnypitZJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 41
ZJ axle shafts in a YJ, CAD eliminate

OK so I have a pretty major leak on the passenger side 2 piece axle shaft, and the last time we were out it would not engage for half the trail ride. So after a TON of searching, I decided to use an XJ 1 piece shaft to eliminate the CAD and put the seal in the pumpkin.

My problem came with the fact that every single XJ I find is already missing that axle shaft. Apparently its a popular mod around here.

There are about a dozen ZJs and WJs with the axles intact and u-joints. Will any of them fit? I know mine doesnt have ABS, but it is a 95 so I think it has the larger u-joints. All the ZJs and WJs have ABS.

So which will work? Do I have to get an XJ shaft?

mnypitZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 02:10 PM   #2
The_Goob
Hell on Wheels
 
The_Goob's Avatar
1991 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Walcott, IA
Posts: 2,945
tj and xj are the only 2 I have heard of using
__________________
-- Hell on Wheels --YJ Build Thread
-April '14 YJOTM-
The_Goob is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 02:55 PM   #3
mnypitZJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 41
There are a couple threads here that mention ZJ axles, but its not clear what works and what doesnt.
mnypitZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 02:56 PM   #4
Randonexplosion
Trailer Queen
 
Randonexplosion's Avatar
1988 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cortez, Colorado
Posts: 4,507
I have heard of using ZJ shafts, but some of them had cv joints. I'm not sure what years are good. If you can go browse the yard to find one with U joints make sure they are the bigger 760s.
__________________
5.3/4l60e swap

August YJOTM

Exiled Offroad - Colorado
Randonexplosion is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 02:58 PM   #5
Anticanman
Follow me
 
Anticanman's Avatar
1994 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Ripon, California
Posts: 19,230
Just make sure they have the ujoints as mentioned. Early models should have them and its a temporary solution to the problem until you can find a set with bigger ujoints.

Then you'll have a spare set! Keep the unit bearings on them and you'll be ready to roll on the trail and leave the 36mm socket at home.
__________________
Luck Favours The Prepared
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Anticanman is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 03:10 PM   #6
mnypitZJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 41
I found a 97 in the salvage yard, and started taking out the axle. Of course I didnt have a hammer and I couldnt get the bearing to break loose. But it had a u-joint, just not sure what size. How can I tell that? My understanding is that the 95 YJ has the bigger joints.

The other issue I saw was that it had ABS, so it has the ABS gear on it. Does this matter?
mnypitZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 03:15 PM   #7
Randonexplosion
Trailer Queen
 
Randonexplosion's Avatar
1988 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cortez, Colorado
Posts: 4,507
Pretty sure you can just knock the ABS tone ring off. The smaller joint (260) has a cap diameter of 1.0620" and the larger (297/760x) is 1.1880".
__________________
5.3/4l60e swap

August YJOTM

Exiled Offroad - Colorado
Randonexplosion is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 03:41 PM   #8
mnypitZJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 41
OK so probably no way to tell while laying in the mud at the salvage yard. Crap. I would like to believe that since its a Grand Cherokee that it has the larger units like a Cherokee?
mnypitZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 03:44 PM   #9
Mark05059
Registered User
1989 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: quechee Vermont
Posts: 4,333
not always. They had the smaller joints on the zj's as well.
__________________
1998 ZJ 5.2 Auto

1989 Wrangler Black Bone Stock 2.5l 5spd
/l , [____],
|---L--[]lllllll[]-
()_) ()_)==O=)_)
Mark05059 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 03:49 PM   #10
mnypitZJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 41
That is just weird that Jeep would make every single XJ after 95 the larger one, but not the higher end ZJ? I am not questioning you, it just baffles me as to why Jeep did this. I dont do a lot of serious wheeling right now in this, so the smaller joint may be fine for a while.
mnypitZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 04:15 PM   #11
Randonexplosion
Trailer Queen
 
Randonexplosion's Avatar
1988 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cortez, Colorado
Posts: 4,507
Quote:
Originally Posted by mnypitZJ View Post
I dont do a lot of serious wheeling right now in this, so the smaller joint may be fine for a while.
FWIW im still rocking stock shafts with cad fork locked over on 35s with a V8 and I havent broken a shaft.... yet.
__________________
5.3/4l60e swap

August YJOTM

Exiled Offroad - Colorado
Randonexplosion is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 04:21 PM   #12
mnypitZJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 41
I would do that, but I have to remove the shaft anyway to do the seal, I need a wheel bearing in my ZJ, and the shaft is only $15 with a bearing, so I figured I would do it.
mnypitZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 08:28 PM   #13
90DesertTanYJ
Registered User
1990 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 750
You could ask which models have the bigger u joints over on the XJ, ZJ, WJ forum here. Not knowing but maybe it would stand to reason the bigger u joints may be on V8 Grands rather than the I6's? I dunno thats just a guess. How are expensive are new XJ or TJ axles? That might be an option if they arent to pricey.
90DesertTanYJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 08:31 PM   #14
mnypitZJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 41
OK found a TJ axle shaft so I am going to go with that. I know it will fit.
mnypitZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 02-06-2014, 08:51 PM   #15
mnypitZJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 41
The ones I have found new have been over $200 and I am not sure they come with u-joints and the outer knuckle part. I figured for $15 I would do it, but I dont need to do it at all. But now I have a TJ shaft, and it was only a bit more money, so I am good. I wonder why nobody uses the ZJ units?
mnypitZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.
Note: All free e-mails have been banned due to mis-use. (Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.)
Don't have a non-free e-mail address? Click here for a solution: Manual Account Creation
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Thread Tools






Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.