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Unread 10-07-2008, 09:10 PM   #1
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YJ steering column swap mid 80's S10

I have tried searching for info on this but everything related in for cj's. I have a column from a s10 that i want to install in the 88 yj.
Does anyone have experience with this?
im specifically wondering about the floor mount and the length of the shaft that sticks out past the lower bearing. I havent test fit anything yet but when the shafts are lined up side by side im not sure if it will work. thanks

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Unread 10-08-2008, 04:10 PM   #2
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Break the problem done into units:

First off the YJ column bolts to the lower dash first. I will assume the S10 column does also. Is the set up similar at the dash for them both? Then check out the toe plate on the YJ. Can you use the toe plate from the YJ column to hold the S10 column in place at the firewall or if the columns are a different diameter could you use the S10 toe plate to do so?

Now you need to deal with the lower steering shaft. Is the YJ lower shaft the right length, and will it bolt up to the end of the S10 column. If not the cut the two shafts and weld them back together to make them hook up.

Then it is the wiring that needs to be done but if you get this far the wiring should not be too big of a hassle.
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Unread 10-08-2008, 05:21 PM   #3
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why? just get the right parts and save yourself a ton of headaches.
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Unread 10-09-2008, 12:17 PM   #4
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laybackman: thanks for the help, everything bolts up. im am going to have to weld the shafts together. it is like 3/4 of an inch short. as far as the wiring goes, it shouldnt be too bad.
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just an update for people who may find this thread looking for help with a steering column swap. Aftermarket columns are upwards of 300 bills and a used column with the same amenities is a lot too. I was replacing a manual column with tilt and multi speed wipers. found a chev s-10 column, which were also made by saginaw, and while the steering shaft was about an inch too short i was able to let it out of the slip joint and still had enough overlap for safety. all else bolted up correctly after i switched the floorboard mounts from my original to the new one. wiring was simple and they utilized the same plugs for ignition and even wipers. While i lucked out my friend did this same swap and had to splice wiper wires as his column only had slow and fast speeds and the plugs didnt line up. Anyway the s10 column swap is a great solution for those with beat up yj columns or those seeking to upgrade older models without tilt, even cj's.
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Thanks for the followup. It's always nice to find out what happened; otherwise it's like someone tore the last page out of a book.

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Unread 06-22-2010, 04:40 PM   #7
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Considering the YJ uses the exact same column as the S10, it's pretty much a no brainer.

It has already been well documented all over the internet, but thanks for sharing for those that didn't already know.

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just an update for people who may find this thread looking for help with a steering column swap. Aftermarket columns are upwards of 300 bills and a used column with the same amenities is a lot too. I was replacing a manual column with tilt and multi speed wipers. found a chev s-10 column, which were also made by saginaw, and while the steering shaft was about an inch too short i was able to let it out of the slip joint and still had enough overlap for safety. all else bolted up correctly after i switched the floorboard mounts from my original to the new one. wiring was simple and they utilized the same plugs for ignition and even wipers. While i lucked out my friend did this same swap and had to splice wiper wires as his column only had slow and fast speeds and the plugs didnt line up. Anyway the s10 column swap is a great solution for those with beat up yj columns or those seeking to upgrade older models without tilt, even cj's.
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So from what you are saying you did not end up having to cut and weld the shafts? Also do you have any pictures? And yes the followup is great! How much did you end up paying for the S10 column? What year column? Thanks
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Unread 06-22-2010, 04:53 PM   #9
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Any mid 80's S10 column will work.

It's plug and play and a direct swap. Jeep used the same column in all YJ's as I said previously.

Just make sure your wiper motor is compatible with the switch on the S10 column.

IE: If the S10 column has an intermittent wiper switch, then your wiper motor needs to be compatible. IIRC it will either be a 3 or 4 wire motor. The 4 wire is setup for intermittent I believe.
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Unread 06-22-2010, 06:28 PM   #10
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need to swap the toe plates and change the carrier bearing from the yj column to the s10 column, the steering shaft is too short on the s10 (by about 1"-1.5") and must be separated and extended at the slip joint (the overlapped joint in place to allow the shaft to shorten in the event of a crash...rather than impale u) I was able to slide the new s10's out with relative ease but others i have done need soaking in pb blaster, it just depends on condition of donor vehicle. i got the whole column for 60 bucks from some ebay auto recycler. it was almost mint. think it was a 93 column but not sure, will try to find out. and fyi if it is well documented on the internet i never found much more than people who knew people who performed the swap. at the time of it i searched to no avail and also found many different opinions of what was required. ill throw up some pics soon
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Unread 06-22-2010, 08:35 PM   #11
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Here is one from 2005:

Yj steering column swaps? [Archive] - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board

I thought that the swap was pretty well known. Apparently not around here.

If you were in the junk yards as much as I am, you could clearly see that the S10 and YJ columns are identical. Jeep has been using parts from other auto manufactures since the beginning.
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Unread 07-15-2010, 12:23 AM   #12
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couple pics of early to mid 90's chev / gmc s10 p/u or blazer steering column in 88 yj. retained tilt, manual key eject, jeep steering wheel, and ignition. ignition wiring was plug and play, while wipers and blinkers were close. after trying to follow wires and power various leads i was able to get slow/fast and spray to function but not intermittent. also when the left directional is activated the left high beam flashes with the first turn signal flash...not sure what the deal with that is and will be trying to track it down soon as i need to get it inspected by the jersey inspection nazis lol.
first pic is original toe plate from yj bolted directly to nuts on s10 column. toe plate bolted back into floor with no issues.
second pic is a dark pic of upper universal which is a direct match up with the shaft from the s10 column.
will take better/more pics soon.
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