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Unread 05-02-2013, 09:22 PM   #1
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YJ HD Steering

I need help trying to figure out how I'm going to upgrade my steering.

Background: My YJ started to get some pretty bad death wobble a few weeks ago. I examined the steering and I found the TREs have quite a bit of play. Instead of just replacing them with stock TREs, I'd rather upgrade the tie rod and drag link with something that has a little bit more beaf. (I'm hoping to upgrade to 35s or 37s in the future)

Rugged Ridge has an HD steering kit, but I've heard a lot of complaints about a "dead spot" in the steering. But it looks like it's easy to install and not too expensive.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/56...FQ9dQgod-jYApg

MORE also a kit, but it's more expensive and doesn't have a bracket for a steering stabilizer. (I just bought an OME steering stabilizer)

http://www.mountainoffroad.com/_e/Je...y_87_95_YJ.htm

Has anybody tried either of these kits? Are there any other options out there?

-1989 YJ, 4.2, OME 36Rs all 4 corners, metalcloaks, 33s.

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Unread 05-03-2013, 01:51 AM   #2
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I've got the RR HD kit installed and other than the dead spot that is also prominent in the stock steering its been great so far. I still dd my Yj and it works well at 90 mph
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Unread 05-03-2013, 09:02 AM   #3
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I need help trying to figure out how I'm going to upgrade my steering.

Background: My YJ started to get some pretty bad death wobble a few weeks ago. I examined the steering and I found the TREs have quite a bit of play. Instead of just replacing them with stock TREs, I'd rather upgrade the tie rod and drag link with something that has a little bit more beaf. (I'm hoping to upgrade to 35s or 37s in the future)

Rugged Ridge has an HD steering kit, but I've heard a lot of complaints about a "dead spot" in the steering. But it looks like it's easy to install and not too expensive.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/56...FQ9dQgod-jYApg

MORE also a kit, but it's more expensive and doesn't have a bracket for a steering stabilizer. (I just bought an OME steering stabilizer)

http://www.mountainoffroad.com/_e/Je...y_87_95_YJ.htm

Has anybody tried either of these kits? Are there any other options out there?

-1989 YJ, 4.2, OME 36Rs all 4 corners, metalcloaks, 33s.


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Unread 05-03-2013, 09:27 AM   #4
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Thanks Atnicanman. It appears the dead spot occurs when the drag link rolls up and down as it pulls on the tie rod. Since I have a relatively small lift and a drop pitman arm, the angle between my drag link and tie rod is very small. Therefore, I believe the dead spot should be small on my Jeep (hopefully).

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Unread 05-03-2013, 09:45 AM   #5
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I haven't run the JCR steering on a YJ, but I've run it on a XJ and a TJ and was very happy with it on both of them. I'm thinking this is what's going on my YJ in the future.

http://www.jcroffroad.com/mm5/mercha...tegory_Code=S6
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Unread 05-03-2013, 09:58 AM   #6
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I haven't run the JCR steering on a YJ, but I've run it on a XJ and a TJ and was very happy with it on both of them. I'm thinking this is what's going on my YJ in the future.

http://www.jcroffroad.com/mm5/mercha...tegory_Code=S6
+1 This is what i am going with too. With a PSC steering box.

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Unread 05-03-2013, 11:08 AM   #7
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i have the JCR steering.
Had it for about 5 years now, and have put 30,000 miles in it.
I have replaced one tie rod end but I set the jeep on a rock and the tie rod, so my fault.
It is not great for steering, I have the "dead spot".
VERY strong, very.
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Unread 05-03-2013, 01:16 PM   #8
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snip...I still dd my Yj and it works well at 90 mph
Am I the only one who wants to call BullS**t on this?

90mph? Maybe down a steep mountain, with a hurricane tailwind!
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Am I the only one who wants to call BullS**t on this?

90mph? Maybe down a steep mountain, with a hurricane tailwind!
He does it while the engine is off! Figure that one out!
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Unread 05-03-2013, 02:06 PM   #10
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I have the Ruuged Ridge, I like it just fine. I did mine in conjunction with the steering box adjustment and I already had a new steering shaft and bearings. There isnt a dead spot that I can really notice, and even if there were Im not sure you could attribute it solely to the RR system. Rather I would think any slop would be in the rest of the system or in the rolling of the drag link inherent to that type of a system. Whatever you do go get an alingment or do it yourselt, I didnt at first and it was no bueno. Just my $.02
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I've got the RR HD kit installed and other than the dead spot that is also prominent in the stock steering its been great so far. I still dd my Yj and it works well at 90 mph
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Am I the only one who wants to call BullS**t on this?

90mph? Maybe down a steep mountain, with a hurricane tailwind!
I've gotten to 80. I've aslo been to 90 before I changed my speedo gear.
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I have the MORE setup and no complaints. No dead spot, no issues. I also have an add-on dual steering stabilizer, which keeps the 38s straight. Mine sees 75 mph daily and no issues.
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Am I the only one who wants to call BullS**t on this?

90mph? Maybe down a steep mountain, with a hurricane tailwind!
I just hit it again the other day. Steering was calm as a Hindu cow.
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Unread 05-03-2013, 03:44 PM   #14
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I have the Rusty's HD Steering Conversion

Went with this kit because it uses CJ5/7 TREs, which I can buy ANYWHERE, the Rugged Ridge supposedly uses some proprietary stuff and it's made in China.

I've only had the Rusty's kit on there for a few months and just a couple trail rides, but it still tracks straight down the road, and I have no issues at highway speeds either. I'm not sure what everyone was *****ing about it for (do search on here, I think the TJ or XJ forum). The thing is way beefier than the stock stuff and has a nice black powder coat on it.

I do have 1 gripe and that is that when the Alignment tech Aligned my steering wheel, he has the pitman arm way out of wack so at full lock in left turns I have a huge turning radius but in a right turn all is well. The track bar may be too long for my lift of only 2 5/8" (I'm going to try to get things straightened out this weekend). I did not know at the TIME but you can CALL Rusty's and they will custom make you a drag link of the length you need for an extra $20.
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Unread 05-03-2013, 09:22 PM   #15
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Something else to consider.
The MORE kit from what I can see is crossover steering.
You will also have to buy their knuckle bracket to be able to use it and I am not sure if you will be able to use it if you are SUA.
http://www.mountainoffroad.com/_e/Je...e_87_95_YJ.htm
Not saying that is a bad thing just something to consider.
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