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Idaho_Chad 05-02-2013 08:22 PM

YJ HD Steering
 
I need help trying to figure out how I'm going to upgrade my steering.

Background: My YJ started to get some pretty bad death wobble a few weeks ago. I examined the steering and I found the TREs have quite a bit of play. Instead of just replacing them with stock TREs, I'd rather upgrade the tie rod and drag link with something that has a little bit more beaf. (I'm hoping to upgrade to 35s or 37s in the future)

Rugged Ridge has an HD steering kit, but I've heard a lot of complaints about a "dead spot" in the steering. But it looks like it's easy to install and not too expensive.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/56...FQ9dQgod-jYApg

MORE also a kit, but it's more expensive and doesn't have a bracket for a steering stabilizer. (I just bought an OME steering stabilizer)

http://www.mountainoffroad.com/_e/Je...y_87_95_YJ.htm

Has anybody tried either of these kits? Are there any other options out there?

-1989 YJ, 4.2, OME 36Rs all 4 corners, metalcloaks, 33s.

Anticanman 05-03-2013 12:51 AM

I've got the RR HD kit installed and other than the dead spot that is also prominent in the stock steering its been great so far. I still dd my Yj and it works well at 90 mph

Morris4x4Center 05-03-2013 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idaho_Chad (Post 15381658)
I need help trying to figure out how I'm going to upgrade my steering.

Background: My YJ started to get some pretty bad death wobble a few weeks ago. I examined the steering and I found the TREs have quite a bit of play. Instead of just replacing them with stock TREs, I'd rather upgrade the tie rod and drag link with something that has a little bit more beaf. (I'm hoping to upgrade to 35s or 37s in the future)

Rugged Ridge has an HD steering kit, but I've heard a lot of complaints about a "dead spot" in the steering. But it looks like it's easy to install and not too expensive.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/56...FQ9dQgod-jYApg

MORE also a kit, but it's more expensive and doesn't have a bracket for a steering stabilizer. (I just bought an OME steering stabilizer)

http://www.mountainoffroad.com/_e/Je...y_87_95_YJ.htm

Has anybody tried either of these kits? Are there any other options out there?

-1989 YJ, 4.2, OME 36Rs all 4 corners, metalcloaks, 33s.



Either Rugged Ridge or M.O.R.E, Give us a call and we can make sure you get the best price!:2thumbsup:
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Idaho_Chad 05-03-2013 08:27 AM

Thanks Atnicanman. It appears the dead spot occurs when the drag link rolls up and down as it pulls on the tie rod. Since I have a relatively small lift and a drop pitman arm, the angle between my drag link and tie rod is very small. Therefore, I believe the dead spot should be small on my Jeep (hopefully).

Morris - I sent you a PM.

calvynandhobbs 05-03-2013 08:45 AM

I haven't run the JCR steering on a YJ, but I've run it on a XJ and a TJ and was very happy with it on both of them. I'm thinking this is what's going on my YJ in the future.

http://www.jcroffroad.com/mm5/mercha...tegory_Code=S6

Abner_Ravenwood 05-03-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvynandhobbs (Post 15383347)
I haven't run the JCR steering on a YJ, but I've run it on a XJ and a TJ and was very happy with it on both of them. I'm thinking this is what's going on my YJ in the future.

http://www.jcroffroad.com/mm5/mercha...tegory_Code=S6

+1 This is what i am going with too. With a PSC steering box. :cheers2:

Chris

jeepster93 05-03-2013 10:08 AM

i have the JCR steering.
Had it for about 5 years now, and have put 30,000 miles in it.
I have replaced one tie rod end but I set the jeep on a rock and the tie rod, so my fault.
It is not great for steering, I have the "dead spot".
VERY strong, very.

StanF 05-03-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anticanman (Post 15382498)
snip...I still dd my Yj and it works well at 90 mph

Am I the only one who wants to call BullS**t on this? :D

90mph? Maybe down a steep mountain, with a hurricane tailwind! :D

SunDevilJeeper 05-03-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StanF (Post 15384258)
Am I the only one who wants to call BullS**t on this? :D

90mph? Maybe down a steep mountain, with a hurricane tailwind! :D

He does it while the engine is off! Figure that one out!

beemerkid 05-03-2013 01:06 PM

I have the Ruuged Ridge, I like it just fine. I did mine in conjunction with the steering box adjustment and I already had a new steering shaft and bearings. There isnt a dead spot that I can really notice, and even if there were Im not sure you could attribute it solely to the RR system. Rather I would think any slop would be in the rest of the system or in the rolling of the drag link inherent to that type of a system. Whatever you do go get an alingment or do it yourselt, I didnt at first and it was no bueno. Just my $.02

Louie4 05-03-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anticanman (Post 15382498)
I've got the RR HD kit installed and other than the dead spot that is also prominent in the stock steering its been great so far. I still dd my Yj and it works well at 90 mph

Quote:

Originally Posted by StanF (Post 15384258)
Am I the only one who wants to call BullS**t on this? :D

90mph? Maybe down a steep mountain, with a hurricane tailwind! :D

I've gotten to 80. I've aslo been to 90 before I changed my speedo gear.

USMCBuckWild 05-03-2013 01:12 PM

I have the MORE setup and no complaints. No dead spot, no issues. I also have an add-on dual steering stabilizer, which keeps the 38s straight. Mine sees 75 mph daily and no issues.

Anticanman 05-03-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StanF (Post 15384258)
Am I the only one who wants to call BullS**t on this? :D

90mph? Maybe down a steep mountain, with a hurricane tailwind! :D

I just hit it again the other day. Steering was calm as a Hindu cow.

dukeryder 05-03-2013 02:44 PM

I have the Rusty's HD Steering Conversion

Went with this kit because it uses CJ5/7 TREs, which I can buy ANYWHERE, the Rugged Ridge supposedly uses some proprietary stuff and it's made in China.

I've only had the Rusty's kit on there for a few months and just a couple trail rides, but it still tracks straight down the road, and I have no issues at highway speeds either. I'm not sure what everyone was *****ing about it for (do search on here, I think the TJ or XJ forum). The thing is way beefier than the stock stuff and has a nice black powder coat on it.

I do have 1 gripe and that is that when the Alignment tech Aligned my steering wheel, he has the pitman arm way out of wack so at full lock in left turns I have a huge turning radius but in a right turn all is well. The track bar may be too long for my lift of only 2 5/8" (I'm going to try to get things straightened out this weekend). I did not know at the TIME but you can CALL Rusty's and they will custom make you a drag link of the length you need for an extra $20.

TSEJEEPERS 05-03-2013 08:22 PM

Something else to consider.
The MORE kit from what I can see is crossover steering.
You will also have to buy their knuckle bracket to be able to use it and I am not sure if you will be able to use it if you are SUA.
http://www.mountainoffroad.com/_e/Je...e_87_95_YJ.htm
Not saying that is a bad thing just something to consider.
(fill out your profile so we know what we are dealing with please)


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