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Unread 10-09-2011, 10:40 PM   #61
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just wanted to throw this pic up. my rig with the cummins right after I got it running. I'm going to start a build thread here soon
I'm looking forward to it. Do it.

Got a name for it yet? Stump puller.

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Unread 10-09-2011, 11:45 PM   #62
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just wanted to throw this pic up. my rig with the cummins right after I got it running. I'm going to start a build thread here soon
That is very hip... The main reason that I was interested in the bread van approach was so you knew that you were getting a complete system (minus the transfer case)... Yours is the first that I've seen that is using a current Dodge transmission in lieu of the adapter plate from a van to attach the engine to either a turbo 350 or a T18... This is looking more and more like a good alternative for me. I'll be looking forward to your build thread.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 04:53 AM   #63
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Well, my last jeep I swapped in a TBI chevy 350 with an SM 465, and they only thing I ever wanted to change on that jeep was I wish I had a 5th gear, so with this jeep the NV 4500 was the only choice for me, and I HATE automatics. This way I can use all dodge ram parts too, its a big heavy trans, but...as I said, overkill is the way for me haha, and everything is a direct bolt on, no mix matching parts, and a lot of the adapter plates for autos on the bread vans have a 10 degree and on them, so in order for the trans to be mounted level, the engine has to be mounted on a 10 degree angle, which looks stupid to me.

The name of this jeep is "Phoenix" which my dad came up with because, to make a long story short, I was building this Jeep at my school, and when I hastily left the shop to attend an ASME meeting, the Jeep caught fire, and burned out completely, and destroyed the shop....ect. ect.

So I had an engine, a frame and a new body sitting on the ground, and 6 weeks to put it all together in order to graduate haha.

So my dad named it "pheonix" because it is the Jeep that "rose from the ashes"

I have some good pics of the fire too haha.

lesson learned, never be in a hurry when welding
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:53 AM   #64
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Ok, I am slowly refining the design/s

This one features a removable gauge cluster, angled HVAC/radio panel, which can really be cutomized to put anything in there. Under that is a removable panel than can also be customzed for a CB, switches, another cubby hole, whatever.

I also have 2 small panels on both sides of the steering wheen for switches

I created a much larger locking glovebox, and what could be a second locking glovebox above that.

Still working on the grab bar, I just cant decide on a way to do it that will be easy to do with sheetmetal. Either way I plan for it to go through the dash and mount on the main support behind everthing and kind of "straddle" the gloveboxes.
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:55 AM   #65
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:59 AM   #66
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I think this is the way I want to go. I am working on the details right now, which will take the most time. ie, mounting locations, screw loacations, re-measure, optimizing for bending/welding process, blah blah, all the stuff that is not the fun part of design haha.

Drove my Jeep 90 miles to work today btw. I am slowly putting more confidence in it
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Unread 10-20-2011, 05:07 PM   #67
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I think that a CJ style grab handle would bolt on above the glove box and look stock. Plus, the handle would kind of offset the protrusion of the new radio section.
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Unread 10-22-2011, 05:16 AM   #68
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Now don't get me wrong but your last drawings look awfully close to a stock dash. (if memory serves correctly) Or maybe like a cherokees. The engine looks good in that pic, almost like it was ment to be there.
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Unread 10-22-2011, 07:20 AM   #69
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...your last drawings look awfully close to a stock dash...
... yes, except it has the large gauges in the best positions to be blocked by the steering wheel. Seems like way to much work to end up with basically the same thing.
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Unread 10-24-2011, 05:27 AM   #70
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I wanted it to look close to stock, but just place things so tha they are easier to see/reach, and to get rid of the plastic, and to make somthing that is easier to customize, and not look like a bunch of crap drilled, screwed and strapped to the dash all over the place like every YJ I see.

I am not trying to re-invent it, maybe just for people who like aftermarket things a little cleaner and stock looking, like my engine swap.....

added locking storage is a plus too
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Unread 11-04-2011, 05:27 AM   #71
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quick question, I was thinking about this on my drive to work today and I was recalling how I had a very expensive head unit in my old YJ and always worried about it being stolen, but I really worried about it being damaged while wheeling topless and gettin it wet.

So I thought about what they do in boats with the head unit hidden the glove box to keep it dry. I am thinking of designing a door or some type of flip up type thing that would allow you to easily hide you head unit, as well as cover it up quick right before you go flying into a mud pit or river.....

I suppose I really want a YJ with all the comforts of home so that it is a pleasant DD, but I am not worried about going balls to wall on the trails.....
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Unread 11-04-2011, 08:15 AM   #72
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Why not make the grab handle duel purpose? Put it right on the door of the glove box. It will act as a handle to open the box. And a comfort to your passenger when you scare the crap out of them on the trail hahahaha. You may have to beef up the box and/or it's workings.
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Unread 11-04-2011, 08:33 AM   #73
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Why not make the grab handle duel purpose? Put it right on the door of the glove box.
Because it's grab handle strength is then limited by the box latch and hinges. You want a real grab handle to be solidly mounted.
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Unread 11-04-2011, 08:37 AM   #74
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Because it's grab handle strength is then limited by the box latch and hinges. You want a real grab handle to be solidly mounted.
So you don't think that stuff can be beefed up enough to have enough support? (not being a dick. Honestly wondering)
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Unread 11-04-2011, 08:44 AM   #75
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So you don't think that stuff can be beefed up enough to have enough support? (not being a dick. Honestly wondering)
Think about it. The box latch doesn't need a monster handle to operate, so it's not like you have this 2nd big clumsy thing there if the grab handle was not on the box but solid to the dash. A small finger tab is all that is needed for the box, which could be incorporated into the box latch button.
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