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post #1 of 48 Old 10-15-2005, 08:32 AM Thread Starter
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YJ Coil Spring Conversion

I have a 95 YJ with a shackle lift and add-a-leafs, and am looking to convert to coil springs. Has anyone done this? The only two brands i've found are ProComp and Black Diamond.


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post #2 of 48 Old 10-15-2005, 01:16 PM
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I have a 95 YJ with a shackle lift and add-a-leafs, and am looking to convert to coil springs. Has anyone done this? The only two brands i've found are ProComp and Black Diamond.
Stay away from the ProComp... the Black Diamond XCL is a true coilover system and is incredibly good and very pricey.

You might want to check out Clayton OffRoad. They don't list it but call Clayton or Adam there as they do have a coil kit for the YJ that is similar to the TJ using TJ springs. Super beefy like the BD XCL kit.

Also, FabTech will be demoing a coil kit for a YJ at the SEMA show in Nov. but have not given a release date yet.

I've got the XCL kit and it is awesome!

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Thanks for the tip about the procomp. I did notice the Black Diamond price and kinda got sticker shock. I will definately call the Clayton shop.


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This is what i got from the Clayton web site. In the Press.....

Source: Clayton Off Road Mfg, LLC.
Released on: 09/27/2004

We are pleased to announce that we have completed a prototype of the Jeep YJ Coil conversion Kit. The kit should officially join our off road product offerings later this year.

Clayton Jeep YJ Coil Conversion will allow YJ owners to replace the entire leaf sprung suspension with coil springs at all four corners and Hard-Arm™ Suspension, basically transforming it to that of a Jeep TJ. Although few minor design issues still have to be resolved it should not be too long before we can offer this kit to the public. Availability, options and pricing will be posted at the time of product launch.

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IMHO, coil conversions aren't worth it. For a few thousand more you could almost just buy a cheap TJ and just start w/ coils. Of course i'm not taking into consideration how much better YJ's look when modified...

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If you want coils, buy a TJ? Probally save money in the end...

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Why buy a TJ?? I love my YJ, and know a ton of TJ owners who wish they could get a YJ as nice as mine. My only complaint is the stiff ride. I've owned an 87 YJ, a 99 TJ, and now another 95 YJ. What can I say, I like the YJ's.

Im going to look into the Claytons and Black Diamond and see which is the better way to go.

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Ok....so...

If lets say schitz you have a 4banger in your rig. You want to move to a 4.0L. What do you do? Do you sell the the rig that you have worked on for years....to by another stock 4.0, scrapping all the mods you have made...and pay more for a stock setup, simply cause it has a 4.0? Doubtful. Just ask all the other jeeper's who have done an engine swap...which no doubt cost more than actually buying a 4.0L rig.

And slimpee....your quote of "for a few thousand more" is also amusing. Do you have a "few thousand more" laying around to put into your rig? Doubtful, or your wouldnt have that 4 banger in it. As jeepers, we all know what it is to have big ideas and no money.

Xeon, what about you? Your a student for god sake's. You of all ppl should know that buying a totally different rig is harder than just messin with the one you already have and love.

Goose, coils are an option. As many ppl that flame the coils..its funny how every jeep that goes on ebay that has them...goes for much more than another jeep with the same height lift but no coils. Gl with the project.

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I've considered fabbing up a front coil setup(here I go thinking beyond my means again), kinda like an XJ setup. However, I've decided that I'm going to work on a leaf sprung setup that will perform like coils. Too much invested to swap something that involved out.

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Ok....so...

If lets say schitz you have a 4banger in your rig. You want to move to a 4.0L. What do you do? Do you sell the the rig that you have worked on for years....to by another stock 4.0, scrapping all the mods you have made...and pay more for a stock setup, simply cause it has a 4.0? Doubtful. Just ask all the other jeeper's who have done an engine swap...which no doubt cost more than actually buying a 4.0L rig.

And slimpee....your quote of "for a few thousand more" is also amusing. Do you have a "few thousand more" laying around to put into your rig? Doubtful, or your wouldnt have that 4 banger in it. As jeepers, we all know what it is to have big ideas and no money.

Xeon, what about you? Your a student for god sake's. You of all ppl should know that buying a totally different rig is harder than just messin with the one you already have and love.

Goose, coils are an option. As many ppl that flame the coils..its funny how every jeep that goes on ebay that has them...goes for much more than another jeep with the same height lift but no coils. Gl with the project.
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Ok....so...

If lets say schitz you have a 4banger in your rig. You want to move to a 4.0L. What do you do? Do you sell the the rig that you have worked on for years....to by another stock 4.0, scrapping all the mods you have made...and pay more for a stock setup, simply cause it has a 4.0? Doubtful. Just ask all the other jeeper's who have done an engine swap...which no doubt cost more than actually buying a 4.0L rig.

And slimpee....your quote of "for a few thousand more" is also amusing. Do you have a "few thousand more" laying around to put into your rig? Doubtful, or your wouldnt have that 4 banger in it. As jeepers, we all know what it is to have big ideas and no money.

Xeon, what about you? Your a student for god sake's. You of all ppl should know that buying a totally different rig is harder than just messin with the one you already have and love.

Goose, coils are an option. As many ppl that flame the coils..its funny how every jeep that goes on ebay that has them...goes for much more than another jeep with the same height lift but no coils. Gl with the project.
First off I would never buy a 4banger unless I was doing it to drop in a bigger motor than a 4.0L engine, To go through all that pain I would just have a 4.0 is ridiculous, when you can buy a new one with a 4.0L and save some $$ and pain. I would buy a TJ (if I wanted coil springs, which I never will) and start with a foundation that was already coils and go from there. Putting coils on a YJ is like me buying a TJ and puting a front clip off of a YJ on it so I can have square headlights. I have friends that have done the coil conversion and in hind sight they would have started off with a TJ and gone up from there.

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First off I would never buy a 4banger unless I was doing it to drop in a bigger motor than a 4.0L engine, To go through all that pain I would just have a 4.0 is ridiculous, when you can buy a new one with a 4.0L and save some $$ and pain. I would buy a TJ (if I wanted coil springs, which I never will) and start with a foundation that was already coils and go from there. Putting coils on a YJ is like me buying a TJ and puting a front clip off of a YJ on it so I can have square headlights. I have friends that have done the coil conversion and in hind sight they would have started off with a TJ and gone up from there.
Your going on the assumption that you have the ability to buy a 4.0L rig. I think you missed the point. I'm sure that if he had the money to buy a TJ, a 4.0L TJ at that, then put a 4-5 in lift on it, he would have. Fact of the matter is....he has a YJ, probably paid for, and a coil conversion is the less expensive alternative to another rig. Last months 4wd mag did an article on a shop that put leafs on the front of a TJ. Why you ask? Cause he can. The "hassle and pain" you speak of is why more than half of us own jeeps.....simply fun to weekend wrench on.

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just buy a tj,, i totalled my 95 yj 6 months ago and they gave me 8000 cash and it was a blessing becuase of the stiff ride, test drive a tj sometime , youll see how big of a difference there is , it drives more like a SUV, now im sure everybodys saying" ya, its a jeep and its supposed to ride rough , quit crying" but you know damn well you wouldnt mind a smoother jeep, i bought a 97 6 cyl , 77000 miles w/ the cash for 7000 grand that looks great( besides the d35 n 3.07 gears)

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Get a set of multi rate springs and you will notice an vast improvement over the stock and most lift kits. I have the RE XD 2.5in kit and I have more flex than a TJ with a 2.5in lift. So why would I go through all the crap of a coil conversion? I don't have to deal with trac bars, sway bars, and all of the other querks associated with a coil set up. But to each there own, I personnally don't see any benifits of a coil set up over a leaf spring for what you can do with a Jeep as a DD and trail rig. I wonder what your insurance company would have to say about a entirely differnt suspension design (came factory with leaf springs) that is put on by the policy holder?
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