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Unread 08-22-2013, 09:09 AM   #16
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The original graph can be found here along with a list of other 8.8's to grab disk brakes if you get a drum model

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Axles.html

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Unread 08-22-2013, 05:59 PM   #17
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great thread. looking forward to tummy tuck
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Unread 08-22-2013, 06:11 PM   #18
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I tried to stretch when I put mine in, but the beefy diff cover I got kept banging into the tank. Now that I've raised the tank, I may revisit that idea.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 07:43 AM   #19
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I wanted to stretch mine too. Tank issues. I decided to wait to stretch when I do a fuel cell. Then its on! Love my 8.8 though. I have quite a few posi black marks from my 36's from burn outs "testing" the LSD. Lol
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Unread 08-24-2013, 09:20 AM   #20
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I too was going to stretch when I installed my 8.8 but I figured if I was going to do it I'd make it worth while 5"vs 1.5". So I decided to wait
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Unread 08-24-2013, 09:39 AM   #21
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Stan, looks like your on a good path. I pretty much did what your doing now. Only thing I seem to see your missing is a Sye, maybe you mentioned it and I did not see it. Also here is my write up on tucking my tank. Good luck with the install.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...-tank-1407078/
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Unread 08-25-2013, 02:50 PM   #22
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Stan, looks like your on a good path. I pretty much did what your doing now. Only thing I seem to see your missing is a Sye, maybe you mentioned it and I did not see it. Also here is my write up on tucking my tank. Good luck with the install.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...-tank-1407078/
Thanks for pointing out your thread on the gas tank lift - your's is the one that I have bookmarked! I'll be following it closely when I get to that stage of the project. Here's another similar thread for anyone else interested.
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/fuel/raisedyjtank/

The gas tank lift doesn't seem to be a mod that's very popular, but it's a great way to take advantage of the 1" body lift.

On the SYE, yes, I already have a spare NP231 with SYE ready to go into the Jeep. I'll give more details when I get to that stage.

Thanks, Stan
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Unread 09-02-2013, 09:09 PM   #23
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Latest updates added to Part 2 here:
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Quick question...should I replace the axle bearings or not? I'm definitely replacing the seals. The bearings appear to be in good shape, and the axles look fine where the bearings ride. I'd rather not replace them, and save the $50, but I'd like to hear comments.
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Unread 09-02-2013, 11:45 PM   #24
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Looks like this is going to be one killer write up when it's done. I'm sure I'll be linking this to others in the future.

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Unread 09-03-2013, 12:10 PM   #25
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Looks like you have a good direction and plan ! Can I suggest an alteration ????

I would return/sell off the mopar perches. Get some beefier 3" "adjustable" perches and move the axle back 1.5 inches. It's an easy "stretch" for minimal cost. I'll be honest saying I don't know if they work with the ubolt flip kit...but it's worth looking into. It's also as good a time as any since you mentioned TJ flare install and subsequent cutting. Cheers to the upgrade sir and happy grinding !

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The problem with the "beefier" ones is they are designed wrong. First and most important they are way too long. Judging by the spring plates he is going to build a SUA suspension. These are inherently hobbled when it comes to droop. The super long and hard edged perches are only going to hinder this further. I dont even like those for SOA either as they dont do anything for wrap which is half the reason they are built like they are. This brings us to the hard edges. Weve all used the aftermarket perches that are either welded or bent in one direction and they are fine. The stamped units have bent edges all around. This is much better for the springs and creates a strong base. Almost all the long multi hole perches i see are way too tall from mounting point to spring. not sure why they do this. There is no need for all that space. Next leaf sprung vehicle I build is going to have a 2 piece design where the spring sits right on the axle tubing. Maybe you could plasma some ideas out. Looks like he does have multiple holes (starter holes at least) in his perches to go at least an inch back. I find moving mounts just works better and keeps the axle centered between the spring eyes where it works best.
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Unread 09-03-2013, 12:29 PM   #26
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The problem with the "beefier" ones is they are designed wrong. First and most important they are way too long. Judging by the spring plates he is going to build a SUA suspension. These are inherently hobbled when it comes to droop. The super long and hard edged perches are only going to hinder this further. I dont even like those for SOA either as they dont do anything for wrap which is half the reason they are built like they are. This brings us to the hard edges. Weve all used the aftermarket perches that are either welded or bent in one direction and they are fine. The stamped units have dent edges all around. This is much better for the springs and creates a strong base. Almost all the long multi hole perches i see are way too tall from mounting point to spring. not sure why they do this. There is no need for all that space. Next leaf sprung vehicle I build is going to have a 2 piece design where the spring sits right on the axle tubing. Maybe you could plasma some ideas out. Looks like he does have multiple holes (starter holes at least) in his perches to go at least an inch back. I find moving mounts just works better and keeps the axle centered between the spring eyes where it works best.
I got my perches from urbinemachine. I milled them down so the axle sets closer to the spring. I am sprung under and the perches are pretty short. I did have wrap problems because rc springs suck. I run an anti wrap bar and have no issues now. My advice is to grind or mill the perches so the flat part almost touches the tube.
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Unread 09-04-2013, 03:07 PM   #27
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I was cleaning up the shop today, and was going to throw away the dead Harbor Freight angle grinder. I was looking in the box to see if I wanted to keep anything when I noticed a ziplock bag with two new brushes. So I checked both brushes and just replaced the one that was cratered like the surface of the moon.

I plugged it in, and, of course, that Harbor Freight grinder fired right up.
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Unread 09-04-2013, 04:44 PM   #28
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A questionon a related note: what is a stretch and what is the benefit? off road? on road?
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Unread 09-05-2013, 07:01 AM   #29
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A questionon a related note: what is a stretch and what is the benefit? off road? on road?
Stretch = stretching your wheelbase by moving the front and/or rear axles out.

Benefits:
- improves driveshaft angles to allow more lift
- improves approach/departure angles
- etc (help me out here)

Disadvantages:
- the gas tank may have to be moved
- wheel wells/flares may interfere and need work
- etc (help me out here)
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Unread 09-08-2013, 08:07 PM   #30
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Part 3 has been posted:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/y.../#post15820701

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