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post #1 of 11 Old 11-08-2013, 08:56 PM Thread Starter
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Total noob on welding and everything. Looking to get one to patch up my frame. Decided I'm gonna remove tub this winter and fix it right. Wondering if this welder is appropriate and strong enough to weld a yj frame. http://www.harborfreight.com/welding...der-68888.html

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post #2 of 11 Old 11-08-2013, 09:37 PM
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I'm no expert but I feel it probably won't have enough amperage.

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post #3 of 11 Old 11-08-2013, 10:20 PM
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No way! Way too small! I would think a small 180 amp 220V unit would be minimum.

Might want to check out the fabricator forum and brush up on welding/fabbing info.



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post #4 of 11 Old 11-08-2013, 10:23 PM
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If you're using 3/32 5p+ it might be okay for stick welding. But you'll be maxing it out. And if you ever want to weld on thicker metal it won't have enough ***.
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post #5 of 11 Old 11-08-2013, 10:31 PM
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Get an old tombstone style buzzbox off craigslist. Lincoln , miller etc. Can be had for $100. 900x better than any harbor freight welder.


Mine is a 1970s sears model. 140amp. 220v. Got it for $50

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post #6 of 11 Old 11-08-2013, 11:51 PM
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Total noob on welding and everything. Looking to get one to patch up my frame. Decided I'm gonna remove tub this winter and fix it right. Wondering if this welder is appropriate and strong enough to weld a yj frame. http://www.harborfreight.com/welding...der-68888.html

Thanks.
It doesn't have enough power to do anything structural, might be good for bodywork or exhaust fab though. Not recommended. Check on your local ads like suggested above and wait for the good deal!
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post #7 of 11 Old 11-09-2013, 02:35 AM
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When I did the welding on my build I used my Dad's welder... a Hobart Stickmate 220v 140amp.

some of my welding was on 1/8" flat and angle, using 3/32 rods (6011) I had the amperage set somewhere around 75-80 and the welds came out pretty good with full penetration. When it came time to weld the motor mounts (1/4" thick being welded to the frame, however thick that is) and at first I didn't change the setting... I got the metal to STICK but in testing with the mini hand-sledge was able to break them free... not enough penetration. I had to bump the setting up to around 100-110.

obviously that HF welder wouldn't have had the output I needed... but even if 70a WAS hot enough, at only 20% duty cycle (what the HF welder advertises on max output) it would have taken me forever to do.

if you're going to get a stick welder, go for a decent name brand used through Craigslist which can be had for $150 or less.... and with the older units, even the "store brands" like Craftsman, Montgomery Ward, etc would be a decent buy.

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post #8 of 11 Old 11-09-2013, 06:22 AM Thread Starter
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Anything to look for when buying used? Not sure if things can go bad or something
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post #9 of 11 Old 11-09-2013, 08:59 AM
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Its always a good idea to try it out first.
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post #10 of 11 Old 11-09-2013, 09:52 AM
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When you decide what welder to buy dont go cheap. You will be much happier with a name brand good quality unit. If you can afford one right now save until you can. My .02
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post #11 of 11 Old 11-09-2013, 10:29 AM
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I bouhht w 220 Lincoln stock a oder for 50 or 75 and it had extra long leads and the worked great. Just check daily and you will find on cheap

I don't feel like working on anything at this time so i sold my yj.
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