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Unread 07-05-2011, 05:39 PM   #1
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Would this Welder be Enough

Would this Hobart be good enough for Shock and Spring Perch or should I go bigger? What do you guys recommed?

1St One
http://www.hobartwelders.com/product...ed/handler140/

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http://www.hobartwelders.com/product...ed/handler187/

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Unread 07-05-2011, 05:42 PM   #2
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2nd one if you can afford it/have a suitable power source in your garage.

You could make the first work for most jobs, but will weld slow and probably take a couple passes on frame work.
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Unread 07-05-2011, 05:49 PM   #3
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I have the 2nd one and I run gas instead of the flux core wire. I am very satisfied with it.
I would recommend #2 with Gas.
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Unread 07-05-2011, 05:55 PM   #4
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I'll be using gas for better and cleaner weld.
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Unread 07-05-2011, 05:59 PM   #5
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Well I have the 2nd one. Its a nice machine I run it with gas and it welds very nice. Now the only problem I have with it, is you cant weld 3/16th steel with .035 wire for a long time. The over temp switch trips and you have to wait for it to cool down that really sucks. I haven't call Hobart yet but plan to tomorrow..
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Unread 07-05-2011, 06:22 PM   #6
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Keep me updated pls. I'm going to order this tom.
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Unread 07-05-2011, 07:04 PM   #7
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i'll post a replay after I talk with Hobart..
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Unread 07-05-2011, 07:48 PM   #8
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I would save a bit more money and buy a used Miller maxstar 150stl. It will stick and tig, but not tig aluminum. The duty cycle on this little monster is unbelievable. It is smaller than the hobart but out ranges it in application. You can stick most frame work on the jeep but when you need to keep the heat down and get precision on the weld the tig function is a benefit.
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Unread 07-05-2011, 08:08 PM   #9
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I would go with the 220v machine if you can swing it. It will do everything you need and you won't have to upgrade. I love my Lincoln 180c but my brother in law has the 2nd Hobart machine you posted and he loves it.
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Unread 07-05-2011, 08:41 PM   #10
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The 220v is the only way to go. You will not have a regret later.
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Unread 07-05-2011, 08:49 PM   #11
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You'll ultimately be happier with the 220 machine, but that little 140 will do perches etc..

That being said, I've got a Lincoln 175 and that same Hobart 140. I've had the 140 for nearly two years and it's still sitting brand new in the box.
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Well I have the 2nd one. Its a nice machine I run it with gas and it welds very nice. Now the only problem I have with it, is you cant weld 3/16th steel with .035 wire for a long time. The over temp switch trips and you have to wait for it to cool down that really sucks. I haven't call Hobart yet but plan to tomorrow..
The duty cycle is 30% duty cycle @ 130 amps 20 volts for the hobart 187

Duty cycle definition from wikipedia if you dont know:

In equipment such as a welding power supply, the maximum duty cycle is defined as the percentage of time in a 10 minute period that it can be operated continuously before overheating.



It doesnt sound like the machine is at fault, you are just pushing its limits
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Unread 07-05-2011, 11:16 PM   #13
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If you are doing heavy welding why not just get a stick welder and the right rod for what you are doing. A Lincoln tombstone is cheaper than both of those posted and will do a great job for you. I have the HH 140 like you posted in #1 Yes it will and can weld perches on and axle With a beveling of the perches and 3 passes and be a strong weld. Oh by the way the flux core will give better penetration than a solid wire and gas.
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Unread 07-05-2011, 11:22 PM   #14
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The second one is much more likely to do what you need it to (Of course, you knew that already...) Have you considered buying a smaller flux core (like the first one) for light materials and tacking and snagging an old arc welder from craigslist? A 220 arc welder will handle any of the heavy metal on a vehicle.
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Unread 07-06-2011, 06:41 AM   #15
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I was going to go with 140 and if I need to weld spring perch I'll just have a shop do it for me but after doing some research I think the 220 is the way to go. Now do I really need another for lighter welding say floor board ect?
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