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post #1 of 15 Old 03-31-2006, 08:08 PM Thread Starter
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wj knuckles.

i was at work today, and finally saw a wj come into the shop (it's a nissan dealer),
so i peeked under it to see how different the knuckles are. they look awesome, but the lower ball joint looks a lot beefier than mine. do the knuckles fit on the stock ball joints???
also do the brake lines bolt up to the wj calipers w/o problems???
and my last question... how much do i expect to spend for a pair of j/y wj knuckles??
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Around here I can get the knuckle assembly and calipers for @ $75 each

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What is the benefit of the WJ knuckles for those of us that are stupid?

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wj knuckles allow the drag link to be put higher on the knuckle than the stocker giving a high steer setup, but technically it's crossover steering cause the tie rod stays in the original location. it will help w/ soa setups b/c it puts the drag link over the top of the spring, and straightens it out to prevent bump steer.

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Well ... I just did a little poking around ....

Unles I am mistaken, I could get an entire WJ D30 and swap everything to a YJ (or TJ/XJ) D30 and end up with not only bigger brakes, but also with crossover steering. 15 wheels will require the calipers to be ground but other than that is there anything I am missing?

I see a lot of guys making spacers and stuff ... but if I used all the WJ parts, aside from grinding and making a new tie rod / drag link it should be a bolt on affair correct?

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Well ... I just did a little poking around ....

Unles I am mistaken, I could get an entire WJ D30 and swap everything to a YJ (or TJ/XJ) D30 and end up with not only bigger brakes, but also with crossover steering. 15 wheels will require the calipers to be ground but other than that is there anything I am missing?

I see a lot of guys making spacers and stuff ... but if I used all the WJ parts, aside from grinding and making a new tie rod / drag link it should be a bolt on affair correct?
I believe the bolt pattern is different.

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I believe the bolt pattern is different.
Ahhhh ... I knew there had to be a reason so many people were making spaces and such

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the bolt pattern is the same.
the 1/4" spacer is required to get the rotor off of the knuckle.
it is a nice mod with some BADASS brakes.
there is welding involved.

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someone needs to post pictures of this.
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the bolt pattern is the same.
the 1/4" spacer is required to get the rotor off of the knuckle.
it is a nice mod with some BADASS brakes.
there is welding involved.

Try that again Erik?

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Don't use spacers. You will lose strength because the hub will barely sit inside the knuckle. It's better to drill another bolt pattern (5x4.5") on the hub's flange.
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No, you need the spacer. The WJ knuckles are slightly (1/4in) shallower than the YJ ones (when measureing from the centerline of the ball joints to the hub mounting surface) So if you try and bolt on the wj knuckles without the spacers, the axleshafts will bottom out on the diffrentral before the hub is bolted down. The spacer is required for the conversion.

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the bolt pattern is the same.
the 1/4" spacer is required to get the rotor off of the knuckle.
it is a nice mod with some BADASS brakes.
there is welding involved.
I think the WJ bolt pattern is different ....5 on 5 or something. Which is why people are using the TJ hubs..... which need the $25 (each) JKS spacers and would have weld them to the knuckle....

Welding to the cast knuckle? Does anyone have decent pictures of this?

I guess I would just prefer to not have too many custom parts for something like this so that when something breaks it can be easily replaced...

Here's an interesting take on the spacer part .....
http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hi-steer.html

Looks like they used some "indexing dowels" to take some of the load off the 3 hub retaining bolts. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Now maybe if they retapped the hub to used 3 big fat grade 8 bolts or something I'd feel better about it.

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I think the WJ bolt pattern is different ....5 on 5 or something. Which is why people are using the TJ hubs..... which need the $25 (each) JKS spacers and would have weld them to the knuckle....

Welding to the cast knuckle? Does anyone have decent pictures of this?

I guess I would just prefer to not have too many custom parts for something like this so that when something breaks it can be easily replaced...

Here's an interesting take on the spacer part .....
http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hi-steer.html

Looks like they used some "indexing dowels" to take some of the load off the 3 hub retaining bolts. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Now maybe if they retapped the hub to used 3 big fat grade 8 bolts or something I'd feel better about it.
it wasnt clear which "bolt pattern" was being referred to. i have the warn hub conversion, and retained it with the wj swap.
i was thinking the 3 bolts that hold the whole knuckle assembly to the hub.

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