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Unread 08-29-2013, 05:02 PM   #16
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What the heck is going on here. If it don't work get a bigger hammer. This is a window!

You have a badly made seal. You should not have that problem. Do not force it. The seal should only compress a little.

Get your money back and get a different seal from someone else. I know time has value, but do it right.

When you order your new seal make sure it is not the same brand.

EDIT: I see your problem. Your new seal is not trimmed around your windshield hinge. That is hopefully why it is to tight. Do not force it, trim it.
I've done a few of these with various gaskets. They're all a headache trying to install (I'd be concerned if it folded back easy). Once it takes a set ...yes, it will be easy to fold back, but on a new gasket they're anything but easy.

Also, if he trims a seal, why not just leave the old one in? Yes, it'll be a bit stiffer to fold down the first time, but if you trim it, you're begging for a leak at the hinge locations.

This is a picture of mine just before folding the windshield up. Yes, pulling it back far enough to start the bolts was difficult (very difficult), but I'd rather fight it once and be done in lieu of going through the effort to end up with a leak and have to do it again.

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Unread 08-29-2013, 06:29 PM   #17
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What the heck is going on here. If it don't work get a bigger hammer. This is a window!

You have a badly made seal. You should not have that problem. Do not force it. The seal should only compress a little.

Get your money back and get a different seal from someone else. I know time has value, but do it right.

When you order your new seal make sure it is not the same brand.

EDIT: I see your problem. Your new seal is not trimmed around your windshield hinge. That is hopefully why it is to tight. Do not force it, trim it.
I too would be concerned if the seal was easy to make the first time. After repeated foldings of the windshield it gets easier, but the first time or two it was tight. A new seal compared to a 25 year old seal should be hard as hell to get to fit the first time.
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Unread 08-29-2013, 07:09 PM   #18
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Thanks for the input everyone. I really liked the idea of buying longer bolts and working it back over time. My concern is just the bottom lip sticking out too far.
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Unread 08-29-2013, 07:13 PM   #19
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I am sorry I was not more clear. According to the picture you have the seal under your hinge.
The seal is suppose to be trimmed out under and/or around the hinge.

No seal behind the hinge.
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Unread 08-29-2013, 07:21 PM   #20
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I am sorry I was not more clear. According to the picture you have the seal under your hinge.
The seal is suppose to be trimmed out under and/or around the hinge.

No seal behind the hinge.
Why would you trim a seal from behind the hinge? Do you seriously think that water isn't going to make it there?
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Unread 08-30-2013, 06:30 AM   #21
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Why would you trim a seal from behind the hinge? Do you seriously think that water isn't going to make it there?
Go look at your rig. The seal is trimmed around your hinge.
If the seal is under your hinge you will have many more problems.

I never said under the windshield, just behind the hinge.
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OK, can we end this now? Here's what you do, BUY THIS: http://www.jeep4x4center.com/cowl-ru...-55009127.html and your problems are over.
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Unread 08-30-2013, 12:41 PM   #23
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OK, can we end this now? Here's what you do, BUY THIS: http://www.jeep4x4center.com/cowl-ru...-55009127.html and your problems are over.
As stated in post #1, that IS the seal he purchased... the issue with these seals is that they tend to bulge out from the body when screwed in at the predetermined spots... And yes, its new so the windshield will have to be pulled back slightly to compress the seal. Pull back slightly with even pressure and take care not to bully it into place. It should be a tight squeeze.
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Unread 08-30-2013, 02:53 PM   #24
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Go look at your rig. The seal is trimmed around your hinge.
If the seal is under your hinge you will have many more problems.

I never said under the windshield, just behind the hinge.
I didn't say under the hinge either and I'm pretty sure I know more about my Jeep than you do pasinbuy.

I'm simply saying that you shouldn't start hacking on a new moulded gasket because it doesn't flop into place without effort. It's a compression seal. In order to function properly it needs to ...wait for it ...C O M P R E S S. This is a gasket that's made for this specific application. If you want to whittle on yours, have at it, but don't pass this off as the "correct" method of replacement to people looking for assistance.

Would you "trim" up a head gasket or valve cover gasket? (I'm hoping that you answer is "Of course not!" ...if it isn't, you might want to refrain from posting more than questions.)
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I have installed more than a few of these and here is what I have learned. It depends where the gasket came from. Some gaskets were hard rubber and some were soft. Soft install was no problem while the hard gasket was a major pain and needed a lot of adjustment.
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