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post #1 of Old 08-28-2013, 10:55 PM Thread Starter
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windshield not folding back after cowl seal install

HELP! My windshield is not hold back far enough for me to bolt the roll bar back on! I am out of ideas or what to do. I attached a picture of the gap on the bottom of the seal. Is the bottom supposed to be completely flush with the windshield? I am out of ideas! I purchased the seal from Morris 4x4

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post #2 of Old 08-28-2013, 11:03 PM
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There is an overhang of the lower seal but should seat against the body. I have a little sliver of a gap in mine looks fine.

To get the windshield back to its original angle you have to a few things. The spreader bars have a long bolt that can be used to draw it back. If it won't move nicely you can use some ratchet straps to draw it back using the roll bar main beam as an anchor.

If you can get the spreader bar bolts started you can tighten it up till it quits let it set over night and try some more in the morning. If it still won't go buy a package of the straps and use some blankets to protect the paint and get to rigging it up and ratchet it back along with the spreader bar bolts.

It will definitely piss you off at first but all is good it will come back to where it belongs. Play some hard rock and have a few beers your YJ will love it and go back to normal real fast.

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Ah man. I thought it was an easier job than I thought. Thank you for the tip. Where should I wrap the ratchet strap too? Around the middle roll bar then around the corner of the windshield?

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post #4 of Old 08-29-2013, 04:51 AM
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i would pull straight back, not at an angle.

I don't feel like working on anything, at this time.
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post #5 of Old 08-29-2013, 05:45 AM
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My new gasket was also pretty tight, so it was a two man job. One presses on the windshield frame while the other starts the bolts.
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A ratchet strap, around the top roll bar, will help draw it in. Be gentle so you don't twist the windshield. Just a couple clicks of taught, then let it sit overnight so the pressure compresses the new seal. By morning it should be much easier to bolt everything together.

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A ratchet strap, around the top roll bar, will help draw it in. Be gentle so you don't twist the windshield. Just a couple clicks of taught, then let it sit overnight so the pressure compresses the new seal. By morning it should be much easier to bolt everything together.
x2. This worked for mine as my roll cage mod would not allow the use of the spreader bar bolts.

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The only thing I can say is to close your eyes. Seriously. If you close your eyes and pay attention to your finger tips, you'll be able to feel the nuts better and manipulate them easier.
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Your best option is to get some help. Preferably a couple of good sized fellas. It's possible to do it by yourself (I've done it), but you'll be saying things that would make a sailor blush and it'll take forever.

I do recommend hosing the gasket down with silicone spray though. It's good for the gasket and makes the job easier.

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My only advice is to be careful and watch the hinges. I was trying to put my windshield back up after pulling the dash and it wouldnt come back all the way due to some wiring that was run through for aux lights by the PO. I bent the hinge on the drivers side so the windshield didnt sit flush on the cowl seal. Even after replacing that hinge it sits up a bit higher. Mine bent a lot easier than I thought it would.
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post #10 of Old 08-29-2013, 10:06 AM
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I did mine last year and had the same issue, I started with longer bolts in the corners and drew it back a little at a time until I got the spreader bars where I needed them. hope this helps.

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post #11 of Old 08-29-2013, 02:07 PM
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Has anyone tried throwing the seals in the clothes dryer for a couple minutes to make them warm and soft like gummy bears that have been in your pocket all day?
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My seal has the same gap as yours but also has a bit of a gap up top... I screwed it in at all points using the predrilled holes in the seal. I replaced it last weekend and actually dropped the windshield twice thinking I could get it closer to the body in the front of the windshield but to no avail. I improvised since I did the job alone and used a boat/trailer strap ... It functioned as a wratchet strap.

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2 man job when we replaced the ws frame and cowl seal.... I pulled it back by hand and my son ran the bolts in...

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What the heck is going on here. If it don't work get a bigger hammer. This is a window!

You have a badly made seal. You should not have that problem. Do not force it. The seal should only compress a little.

Get your money back and get a different seal from someone else. I know time has value, but do it right.

When you order your new seal make sure it is not the same brand.

EDIT: I see your problem. Your new seal is not trimmed around your windshield hinge. That is hopefully why it is to tight. Do not force it, trim it.
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Has anyone tried throwing the seals in the clothes dryer for a couple minutes to make them warm and soft like gummy bears that have been in your pocket all day?
I wouldn't want to risk it. Silicone spray helps a lot.

Edit (because I didn't elaborate)... When it's heated up, it'll be more pliable, but it's still going to hang like crazy and you'll end up bulging the gasket. Silicone spray will let it slide where it needs to go and won't hurt the gasket (If you don't have a decent coat of wax on your Jeep, try to keep the silicone off the paint. It won't hurt it, but you'll have shiny spots).

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