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Unread 02-23-2008, 07:21 AM   #1
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winch way is up?

I have been looking at an 8,000# rated winch that weighs in around 110#. If I was to mount this unit to the front of my '95 YJ, would there be a need for any type of suspension mods to keep the jeep "level" or would the 100+#'s be "unnoticed". Thanks. By the way, the suspension is stock.

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Unread 02-23-2008, 07:40 AM   #2
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I guess you are talking the 8274. Sit on the nose of your Jeep and have someone take a profile pic. That should give an idea of what the winch plus mount etc. will do for you. It is likely that the front may sag a bit faster with the weight staying there for a long time but I don't personally have experience with that winch on my rig.
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Unread 02-23-2008, 08:29 AM   #3
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My guess is if this is still the stock suspension, it has already sagged some winch or no winch. My 95 has a winch on the front and sagging is very noticeable. At the very least you may want to consider beefier shocks. JMHO
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Unread 02-23-2008, 09:56 AM   #4
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my m8000, made the front of my jeep sag a bit..i have an re 4" and i am now trying to figure the best way to bring it back to level~
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Unread 02-23-2008, 02:04 PM   #5
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Shocks are NOT designed to off set sagging shocks or additional weight UNLESS they are coil over shocks...they are designed to damp the springs...this is a very common misconception...you might consider a set of 'Load Leveler' shocks..that name is owned by Monroe, who made some of the first coil overs...might work for ya...
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Unread 02-23-2008, 02:28 PM   #6
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i'm thinking 5/8 boom shackles...take a measurement, mount your winch and see what happens a month or so down the road..and make adjustments then..a good winch is still a life saver~
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Unread 02-23-2008, 04:15 PM   #7
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I just bought a Mile Marker 8000# winch and it only weighs 82# according to UPS. I built a custon bumper that may weigh in at around 70# and with both on the front I did not notice any sag. But my springs are a little stiff. If it makes yours sag you can always add an additional leaf spring.
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Unread 02-23-2008, 04:54 PM   #8
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t max 9500lb and a hefty bumper. no sag on 2.5" old man emu springs, sprung over.
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Unread 02-23-2008, 06:36 PM   #9
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Coil over shocks , just what every jeep owner needs, an even rougher ride, I like the sound of the 5/8 shackle lift, or just throw some more weight in the rear
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Unread 02-23-2008, 06:55 PM   #10
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Coil over shocks , just what every jeep owner needs, an even rougher ride, I like the sound of the 5/8 shackle lift, or just throw some more weight in the rear
hmmm, lemme guess you havent had too much (if any) experience with a well setup pair of coilovers?? i have, and let me tell you from experience, no leaf spring in the world can come close to the ride quality and adjustability of coilovers.

just thought i would set the record straight, back on topic...

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Unread 02-23-2008, 07:11 PM   #11
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You misunderstand the coil overs in question are not replacing the leaf springs, they are used in conjunction with them, making a rough ride rougher by tensioning the coils to help lift a saggy spring, trust me I had these on a car when I was younger and it was a rough ride
What you are talking about would be a pretty expensive upgrade on a jeep
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Unread 02-23-2008, 07:17 PM   #12
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You misunderstand the coil overs in question are not replacing the leaf springs, they are used in conjunction with them, making a rough ride rougher by tensioning the coils to help lift a saggy spring, trust me I had these on a car when I was younger and it was a rough ride
What you are talking about would be a pretty expensive upgrade on a jeep
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Shocks are NOT designed to off set sagging shocks or additional weight UNLESS they are coil over shocks...they are designed to damp the springs...this is a very common misconception...you might consider a set of 'Load Leveler' shocks..that name is owned by Monroe, who made some of the first coil overs...might work for ya...
he was talking about load leveler's, not coil overs....
and coilovers in heeps are not too uncommon, if you can grab some decent coilovers for the right $$$, not too bad at all. both me and scott have looked into this ourselves.
crossed wires me thinks......

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Unread 02-23-2008, 07:25 PM   #13
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Mount it and have fun.
If it makes a big diiference to the look or ride of your jeep, then it's time for new leaf springs.

no worries, just wheeling.
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