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Unread 06-25-2002, 01:03 PM   #1
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ok, finaly getting one : a warn 9000. trouble is how to put it on. i dont wan't to get a new bumber so i was thingking of thaking the plastic jeep cover off, get a steel plate of te same size and put that there, then drill the holes for the warn in that plate.... will it work?

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Unread 06-25-2002, 01:16 PM   #2
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If you are talking about using the stock jeep front bumper to mount a 9000 lb winch, I would don't do it. The stock bumper is designed to participate in 5mph federal crash tests. This is load handling in the opposite direction from winch duty.

Buy a bumper designed to for winching, or have one made.

Just imagine what would happen out on the trail when you are winching out a buddy's rig and your winch is ripped off the font of your jeep. Outcome could range some hilarious to deadly, but none would be good.
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Unread 06-25-2002, 01:47 PM   #3
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I agree. Invest in a winch bumper.
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Unread 06-25-2002, 08:09 PM   #4
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they make a winch plate that attaches to the frame behind the bumber..thus doing the same thing as a winch bumber and transfering the stress (pulling of the winch) to the frame?

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Unread 06-25-2002, 08:31 PM   #5
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Correct! You don't mount the winch to the bumper. Yeah, there's a couple of bumpers that have integrated winch mounts. But even those are actually mounting the winch to the frame. Generally the winch is mounted on a winch mounting plate to the frame horns. A typical mounting plate has bends to add strength. If you're making your own and don't add the bends, go overboard on the plate thickness.
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Unread 06-26-2002, 02:45 AM   #6
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Charlie L:
<strong>Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they make a winch plate that attaches to the frame behind the bumber..thus doing the same thing as a winch bumber and transfering the stress (pulling of the winch) to the frame? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Absolutely. It doesn't matter which bumper you have mounted on the Jeep. ALL of the stress is laid upon the frame itself. Of course, this is a different story, once you use the bumper as a pull point.
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Unread 06-26-2002, 03:42 AM   #7
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True, the so called 'winch bumpers' really only have a mount for the roller fair lead but the winch is mounted to the frame. My fair lead is attatched to my winch with no special bumper for anything. My winch holds up just fine.
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Unread 06-26-2002, 08:54 AM   #8
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I just put a winch on. I ordered that and the Warn mount they called for for my YJ.

It mounts the winch to the frame via 4 bolts. You take out 2 of the bumper bolts (I have a orig. bumper) and take the plastic plate off (you'll see the other 2 bolts).

It comes with the correct bolts and spacer to make the mount level. The mount itself is VERY massive and heavy ( I dropped it on my foot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> ). The mount is 3 pieces, one big piece for the middle and 2 smaller ones that actually mount to the frame. You bolt that larger plate to the 2 smaller plates. I went a step further and had it welded after all the bolts were torq. to the correct specs.

Anyway, I have no doubt about the plates strength. I took it out over the weekend and winched up all sorts of stuff. On one hill, the last 4 feet was totally vert. It was awesome.
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Unread 06-26-2002, 01:05 PM   #9
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actualy that was the id, i'm not planning on mounting the thing to the buber, but just behinde it, direckly, or via a steel plate to the frame... so that will work?
also where do you put the box ( with te remote control plug en some other stuff i guess)? can you put in under the hood, and make a switch on the dashboard to operate it? i'm a bit worried about putting all that stuf in frond of my radiator....
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Unread 06-26-2002, 01:38 PM   #10
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Ya, you got the idea. If I can I'll get you some pics of my set up.

Well, you can get 2 different types. One is integrated the other is the type with the control box. I like the integrated style better (easier install and just looks better). If you buy a Warn it will have an "i" at the end of the model.

The mount comes with a bracket if you don't get the integrated style. It puts in over (on top) of the winch. I have seen people mount it inside the engine compartment but that's up to you.

I wouldn't worry about it blocking your cooling system. I don't think it would really affect it that much. hth
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