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Unread 08-10-2011, 09:42 PM   #1
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Will TJ flares fix this?

Bought some smitty xrc tj tube flares for the rear because I am rubbing when I take corners. It seems the BDS springs seem to locate the 8.8 back a bit further than my Skyjacker rear springs and the Dana 35. Has anyone mounted the tj rears all the way back or should I just comp cut the rear and sell the tube flares?

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The TJ flares will definitely open up the wheel well a lot and it's a mod I highly recommend. I remember on one of my excursions out into the woods I looked at some pics of my jeep and noticed the rear wheel was pretty far back in the wheel well. I found out later I sheared the spring pins.

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Dude, something is misaligned. Are you sure you got the center bolts in the hole on the spring plates and not the open slot in front of the proper alignment hole? That is the "easiest to fix" reason I can think of that it would be sitting that far back.

Your axle is significantly farther back than mine sits with my BDS springs and 8.8. Mine lines up with the opening as it should:
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Pins are in their respective holes on the perches. It's just an inadvertant stretch. How can I get a wheel well for those 35's to hang out in?
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Are those the 4" BDS springs? If so, I think you have them on backwards. Their 4" springs are longer on one side than the other, the smaller 2" springs though are centered.
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They're 5" springs. Maybe they're on backwards... Either way, I'm rolling with it!

How do you keep the inner fender liner intact when you start cutting?
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I threw the inner liners away completely. If you cut your opening the size of the flares you'll have big gaps in the liner allowing even more mud and **** to collect in there to promote rust. I'd just rip them out and spray undercoating under there or bed liner or whatever, that was my plan although I still haven't done it.
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As what the others have said, although I'm not familier with the Tube fenders though I would assume they'd be the same, installing TJ flares will of course open the wheel well up quite a bit, but you cut a big portion of the rear of the fender lip out. When I did mine, I was able to cut just a little off of the front of the wheel well. As I went up and around towards the back, the cut got gradualy larger which led me to cut about 2 or 3 times more off the back then I did off the front. In your case, that seems to be a benificial outcome.

As far as the liners... I thew them out as well and sprayed a rubberized undercoating you can buy from O'rielys or Autozone. You might get the occasional loud rock hitting the wheel wheel... not a big deal.

Or you can keep it. Just trim it after you trim the metal.
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I had a 5" cutting disc that cut through the metal and liner like butter. Any liner that was still sticking out I took a utility knife and trimmed. I kept mine because it was still in good shape and pliable. One of my buddies threw his out because they were cracked and brittle. I would check the condition of them and then decide or just throw them out completely and coat the underside.

On a side note it does look like the springs are on backwards. I believe the full military wrapped end goes on the frame side and the 1/4 wrapped end goes on the shackle side. At least that's how my 3.5" Black Diamonds are. I ran mine backwards on the front (though it didn't matter) for years but I swapped them around when I was putting lower gears in.
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I had a 5" cutting disc that cut through the metal and liner like butter. Any liner that was still sticking out I took a utility knife and trimmed. I kept mine because it was still in good shape and pliable. One of my buddies threw his out because they were cracked and brittle. I would check the condition of them and then decide or just throw them out completely and coat the underside.

On a side note it does look like the springs are on backwards. I believe the full military wrapped end goes on the frame side and the 1/4 wrapped end goes on the shackle side. At least that's how my 3.5" Black Diamonds are. I ran mine backwards on the front (though it didn't matter) for years but I swapped them around when I was putting lower gears in.
They're full mil wrap on both ends of the BDS spring. My RE springs on the front have the full wrap on the frame and the half wrap at the shackle.
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They're full mil wrap on both ends of the BDS spring. My RE springs on the front have the full wrap on the frame and the half wrap at the shackle.
I keep forgetting what assuming gets you . Looks like the orientation of the spring might matter based on the instructions. I guess just something to do when you feel like taking the rear axle out.

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I keep forgetting what assuming gets you . Looks like the orientation of the spring might matter based on the instructions. I guess just something to do when you feel like taking the rear axle out.

http://bds-suspension.com/instructions/014500.pdf
If I didn't already have my driveshaft measured for this orientation, I'd flip them around today. I'm just going to cut a lot and see where it gets me. I don't think it hurts any to have the axle 1" back does it?
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If I didn't already have my driveshaft measured for this orientation, I'd flip them around today. I'm just going to cut a lot and see where it gets me. I don't think it hurts any to have the axle 1" back does it?
Not at all. as long as the axle clears the gas tank your good to go.
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There is still a little bit of steel that I can trim on the flares themselves. Think that'll do?
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I see no problem with the axle back 1". Definitely trim that metal. Every little bit helps. I would even consider moving the flares back a bit to get more room.
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