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Unread 01-19-2015, 12:59 PM   #1
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Why is Rough Country so bad?

Ok y'all, I've read and read and read..

I see the RC hate here & there but none ever really says why? I am def on a budget or would not be asking but are the cheap 2.5 kits really that bad?

I don't really need flex at this juncture; just need to replace these tired springs but don't want complete junk. I am a quality snob usually, but on a pretty tight budget!

Thinking RE if you guys just say they are total junk, but maybe Pro-Comp, IDK, some sort of middle ground???

Thanks!

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Unread 01-19-2015, 01:01 PM   #2
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If you're looking for a middle of the road lift kit it wouldn't hurt checking into Zone. They're BDS' sister company and their quality is much better then rough country
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Unread 01-19-2015, 01:20 PM   #3
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Sweet, thanks man. Had never even heard of them!

Wonder if their shocks are the same as BDS? HaHa, I must be dreaming..
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Unread 01-19-2015, 01:51 PM   #4
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The doigh country springs are generally just rough riding. They are cheaply produced and the tempering process for the spring steel is less than the quality of the little springs that hold in batteries on the cheap universal remotes. There have been a couple guys that like them like tom but most that think they are happy with their ride quality with rough country just don't know any different. The spring rate is primitively rough and they don't have much of a spring back function. In my opinion they are just bent pieces of steel that folks hope will make their jeep just look good.



This is basically what they do. Overarch the springs and hope that you're happy with it when it settles before it sags to two inches below the advertised height. Like I said, some have had good luck but most people have had a bad enough experience for me to dissuade them from buying them.

For a 2.5" lift, old man emu has some decent springs.
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Unread 01-19-2015, 02:06 PM   #5
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Ok y'all, I've read and read and read..

I see the RC hate here & there but none ever really says why?

Thanks!
Their springs are rough riding and sag out really fast. Put a RC lift on my Wagoneer back in 90-91. It rode so harsh off road I was about to go back to stock, but then swapped that off for an FJ-40.

My YJ had a 4" RC lift from the previous owner that had sagged down to stock height. I scrapped everything but the brake line extensions and put together my own. Fabtec 3.5 springs, 5/8" shackles, Daystar bushings and Skyjacker shocks.

I'm not really up on what all is out there for the budget lift but I'm sure many others will chime in, but do consider piecing it together yourself. You can generally save some cash.

Anyway, just my experience FWIW.
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Unread 01-19-2015, 02:09 PM   #6
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I have bought more than 3 kits from them. The quality of the SPRINGS is terrible. The metal looks like it was forged by a blacksmith, and not in a good way. Spring steel should be smooth and hold up over time.
I found that RC OVER shots the lift height by about 3 inches in order for it to settle down to the stated amount of lift.
MANY here have a problem with that, they get the 3 or 4 inch lift and in reality its like 6 inches. And then it settles down to about 1/2 that lift. Then because it has sagged, the ride comfort is not good at all. And before the sag it is ROUGH ridding.

But if flex and comfort is not what your need then the kits work like they should and are cheap.. I got them cause it was cheaper than replacing the broken springs on the jeeps I buy and sell. We have more mud around here than rock crawling so height is more important.
I have switched over to getting ZONE now since the price is right in line with RC but the quality is better and a BETTER selling point. Buy a good lift and worry about other parts of the jeep. Dont Cheap out on a jeep you are going to keep and use.
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Unread 01-19-2015, 02:14 PM   #7
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Thanks! All good info.

Would one say?

RE=Zone
RE>Zone
RE<Zone

& again, thanks to all; I do intend on piecing it together, to save $ while hand-picking my lift. Hope that doesn't backfire!
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Rubicon express has a better warranty. As for the difference in ride quality, I can't tell you. I've never run zone Offroad springs.
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Unread 01-19-2015, 05:25 PM   #9
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First of all, let me be the first to say this (in this thread) DO NOT BUY A LIFT KIT.

Lift kits, in general, have a lot of do-dads and demaflagies you do not need to buy to lift your jeep. IMO - on a limited budget, do this:

Your total out the door with shocks will be less than $600 and you'll have a awesome-riding, high quality lift.

EDIT_ AND you'll only have to buy the springs once. You can add better shocks as budget allows. You can build on this set up, unlike the cheap RC springs.
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There is a market for Rough Country springs.

They are perfect for some.
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There is a market for Rough Country springs.

They are perfect for some.
To this I ask a simple question:

Look at what you are wearing right now. Your shirt, your pants/jeans. Your watch. Is there anything you are wearing right now that you could have paid less for? Of course there is. Your watch, for example. My watch costs a few hundred dollars. I could have gone to the thrift store and purchased a $10 digital plastic watch, but I didn't. Why? because some things are worth the extra money you spend on them. I could have spent thousands more (tens of thouseands more) but I chose this watch because it held the most VALUE for my money.

The same should apply to your lift kit. Selling the jeep in a few months? Or keeping it in your life forever? There is a happy medium, but if you fall into the keeping it and wheeling it category, you need to start with a quality spring.
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If the springs sag, heat em' up and re bend em
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Ride quality is something that shouldn't be skimped on to save just a couple bucks.

Rough country springs all around blow. Even the full size Chevy guys I run with have nothing but horrible things to say about them. Lucca gave great advice on a low price lift that doesn't ride pike a low priced lift.

Do it right and cry once or do it half asssed and cry for months because your Jeep rides like a dump truck and Loses lift height every month.


Just because you are on a budget, doesn't mean you have to use inferior garbage. I'm the example of that
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Unread 01-19-2015, 08:09 PM   #14
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Thanks all! Especially Lucca, that takes valuable time to type & consolidate. I am crawling two of those threads already. I think the combo you pretty much layed out is right in line with where I want to be.

Ride is VERY important to me. I should have made that clear in the beginning. I do not want to sag but most importantly do not want to bounce any extra. This is my DD.

I didn't realize OME springs were within range & that combined sith a Gabriel shock combo should work nicely!

One more ? If anyone is still reading. At the 2.5 lift level, I will need sway bar discos or extensions correct?
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Unread 01-19-2015, 08:14 PM   #15
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Oh, and I've had the same $10 Academy watch on for about 6 years. HaHa!

Hadn't even replaced one battery yet, butI totally get what you're saying & agree.
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