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post #1 of 12 Old 04-04-2010, 07:50 AM Thread Starter
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Who made this top?

Any help would be appreciated....I'd really like to get this on the jeep and in service...

I bought a factory soft top sold for a 91 Renegade with full factory hard doors. I can find NO markings anywhere on the top or frame.

It came with a rather generic instruction/parts pamphlet (really just a few pages of paper stapled together).

On the parts page, there's part #'s for both Chrysler and Bestop.

I need a the brackets that mount between the rollbar and windshield, where the skinny bar fastens.

(this thing)

I called Bestop, and apparently that part number (51962-21 and 51963-21) aren't in their database 20 years later. The lady on the phone said, "Oh, that's a Supertop" and told me that parts would be ~$12.99 with a 4 week delivery time.

I haven't called a Jeep dealer yet with those part numbers (83-505-14 and 83-505-15); gonna do that monday...

That's fine but....is this a Supertop frame?

(This is where the top/front door opening would meet)

I also need the corner pieces which bolt to the tub and the brackets the bottom of the rear window crossbar slides in to, but I can likely source them at a junkyard.


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post #2 of 12 Old 04-04-2010, 08:32 AM
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I'm not sure how to tell from just the framework.. I have the same framework for my softtop and its made by Steel Horse, who is out of business.

Check the rear side windows, thats where they usually put the logo for what brand of top it is. I'm missing the same exact hardware, but I found them cheap at a local Jeeps Unlimited store

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post #3 of 12 Old 04-04-2010, 10:06 AM Thread Starter
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No tags anywhere on it.

The guy I bought it from said it was purchased from the dealer along with the Jeep when new (Renegades came with hardtops).

Does anyone who has a Supertop think they can take a quick peek and see if the connector which attaches to the windshield is the same?

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That definitely looks like my old Bestop Supertop frame. Unfortunately, mine was worn out and I replaced it with a hardtop about 7 yrs ago so I can't take a picture of the windshield bracket for you.
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That's an original Supertop. It was a crossbreed between the factory softop and the current Supertop. You cannot get a new skin for it. I have the same soft top.frame in the garage. I tried to get a replacement skin for it and it's NLA. The newer Supertop skin won't work on it. Unless the skin and windows are perfect it may not be worth dumping $$ into. I bought a new Supertop.

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post #6 of 12 Old 04-04-2010, 12:22 PM
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It is the original top frame from Bestop. Those pins fit into these

Jeep Wrangler YJ CJ soft top windshield brackets. : eBay Motors (item 110503489664 end time Apr-05-10 16:14:07 PDT)

and I believe you can still get the replacement skin. Last year I PM'd Geoff fro Bestop (
member on wranglerforum.com) and he told me that he could supply the skin thru any of their vendors - Qtec, 4wd.com etc.

I have the same framed if you need any pointers

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Last year I PM'd Geoff fro Bestop (
member on wranglerforum.com) and he told me that he could supply the skin thru any of their vendors - Qtec, 4wd.com etc.
I called Bestop and they told me it's NLA. The current Super top snaps to the rear bow and the older one snapped to the center bar. I'd love to get a new skin for the older frame. It's a nicer setup IMO..

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post #8 of 12 Old 04-04-2010, 03:37 PM
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Yep that is a old Best top.
I have one of those clips things on a old top. Not sure if it is in any better shape than the one you have there.
PM me your address I will send it to you.

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post #9 of 12 Old 04-04-2010, 05:23 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the help...

So that pin is the same as the "new" Supertop? That's what I need to know before I order it from Bestop.

They are telling me it's $12.99 for both (quite a bit cheaper than that auction, but thanks for the help)...

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Sure looks like what my "new" supertop uses for the windshield mounts.
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The clips are the same for the old and the new Supertops. The difference is in the way the 2 bows are setup. The ride in grooves like the factory top and use a spreader bar like the factory top. The door surrounds and the way it attaches to the windshield are completely different then the factory top. The old Supertop bows slid right out and off the Jeep. No screws.

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post #12 of 12 Old 04-05-2010, 06:14 PM Thread Starter
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I ordered the windshield brackets, corner tub rail things and the windshield strip from Quadratec. $55 shipped; much easier than going from junk yard to junk yard (who'd probably charge me more anyway).

I'll update when the [back-ordered] parts come in if they work.

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