Okay, what is better offroad, an xj or a yj?
and with modifications to the stock suspension, without changing the type of suspension...what i mean is that the yj has to keep 4 leaf springs all the way around, and the xj has to have coils up front and leafs in the rear?
For me it would depend on what type of wheeling is being done (YJ has a frame, XJ does not), if you have a family of 4 (XJ has more room). The XJ would be a better DD as it has more room and rides better. However, I love my YJ. Nothing like putting the top down and taking the doors off while cruising around. I would love to have an XJ for a DD though.
Well, since I own both an XJ & a YJ, I can tell you ... BOTH!!! I love them both. However, I'm not a hardcore wheeler, so I may not be the best person to ask. I do know the longer wheelbase has it's pros & cons & the turning radius of the YJ helps maneuver the trails easier, but I have done similar obstacles in both vehicles. It is a much nicer ride out to & from the trails in the XJ (both creature comforts & suspension), but I agree with Plato, there's nothing like top & doors off!!! So, to wrap up ... I love them both!!! I'm sure some more hard wheelers will give more details, but I'm happy with both of them.
'12 Black JK Sport, plenty of plans!!!
'06 Dark Khaki WK, 3.7 w/QTII, 1" BB, 265/70/17 Faulken Rocky Mountains (selling)
'00 Black XJ, 3" RC lift, Safari Rack (sold...I miss it)
'95 Flat Black YJ, 2.5" RC lift w/1" boomerang shackles, Smittybilt front & rear bumpers
There are things I like about both vehicles. The simplicity of the YJ, and the suspension and wheel base of the XJ. The XJ's leaves have an off set center pin so when torque is applied the rear end will raise up firmly planting traction on the tires. The linked, coiled front is can be very flexy, and I like the wheel base for steep climbs and decents. Some came stock with a rear D44, and the D30 already has one price shafts, (low pinion though) and they came with the AW4 for the better auto. BUT, you have to do a ton of work to them to fit a decent size tire, they have too much glass, and too much sheet metal.
For the way I wheel it's all about simplicity and function over form. That's why I prefer the YJ.
well in stock trim im gonna say the XJ is a better rig. And I do own a YJ now. Modified im gonna say the YJ is better.
I wheeled my yj when I first got it, bone stock and it wasn't overly impressive and articulation wasn't in it's vocabulary.
A stock XJ has coil springs up front and is SOA in the rear, hence better articulation for a stock vehicle. Ive owned a couple xjs. Xj is also more stable at high speeds due toi the longer wheel base.
THe YJ when modified flexes very well, has a shorter turning radius and is easier to squeeze larger tires under. And very cheap to setup.
I wish I had an XJ still for the odd occassion.
1995 YJ 4.0L HO
760X U-jouints, homemade posi lock, homemade bumpers, modified hydraulic plow setup. RC 4" lift kit, 33" TSL swampers. No sway bar or rear track bar.
Xj's can usually be found cheaper than a yj of the same condition. Coil fronts allow for more axle articulation, but really with enough money, you can make those leaf's flex pretty well too. It's apples and oranges.
I've got one of each. They are both fairly stock. So:
The XJ has more surface area to damage and is somewhat harder to repair body wise.
The YJ seems to be easier to work on overall.
The XJ can carry more stuff.
The YJ can go topless.
The XJ is better for winter DD (heat and weight)
The YJ has a bigger "cool" factor.
They both get crappy mileage.
The YJ is better in the tight stuff.
The YJ is "stiffer" (ouch)
The YJ is "stiffer" (stable platform)
So I say it all depends on what you are going to do with each. I'll call it a toss up in my case.